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Stiff and Straight Leg Deadlift Alleviated My Sciatica

Straight Leg DeadliftSimilar to what you mention in the "dangerous exercises" re. the stiff legged deadlift, I also benefited greatly.

I do a lot of cycling including uphill, plus some weight training and after some years developed a sporadic pain in my hip that seemed to indicate SCIATICA. I went to various sports medicine clinics in the SF Bay Area to no avail and had resigned myself to this being a chronic condition.

Then I read some of the HARDGAINER literature which recommends, in addition to the squat, stiff legged deadlifts. Tried them and found to my surprise that my "intermittent sciatic pain" disappeared, plus I developed a strong lower back. I think the hip and hamstring stretch from this lift is what cause the pain to go away.

I've gotten used to criticism especially from people trained in Exercise Physiology. For example, personal trainers at the gym have pointed me out to other customers as an example of "dangerous exercise technique" saying that locking the knees during the deadlift is "terrible for the lower back" and will inevitably lead to a "bad back".

After many years of doing this, the only time I've ever had any problem is if I artificially hold in my abdomen while doing the lift.

Regards, Thomas


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I am wondering who i should listen to when asking questions so who here has actual credentials or certifications? -Ryan

The best person to listen to is you. Only you know how you are responding to training and diet, etc. As far as advice goes - anyone who has trained for 5, 10, 20 years and has lived to tell about, is more qualified than anyone with letters behind their name. Frankly - people who have failed and then learned from it or injured themselves and worked through it, is far more equipped to train the rest of us. My experience has been that certified trainers would rather tell which movements to avoid, rather than teach you how to do them effectively and safely - what kind of advice is that? There are some very wise people, experienced people here that have not led me astray. Don't worry about cerfications/credentials. Anyone can pass a test or written exam. Remember there have been many "engineers" who have built bridges that collapse.... Regards, Uncertified and making consistent gains. - Bill

Well Bill, for the most part I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, in some cases I do not think anyone can pass a test, so I do not think that credentials should be devalued but looked at as another part of the puzzle. I am currently a PhD student in physics at UC Davis and one of my professors told me a story about how he used to think that everyone could get a PhD if they wanted. Recently though, he encountered a student he said was incapable of doing independent research and just could not think for himself. In these cases I would say that he just was not meant to have a PhD and nothing in the world would give him the ability to get one. Finally, the student realized this and dropped out. Again, this is perhaps a rare case, but I do think that degrees should be taken for granted but viewed as part of the puzzle. -Ryan

Ryan, In my rushed, round-about response, i was basically trying to say what you are saying. I am in the engineering field myself, and have met some so-called engineers who match the profile you describe as the drop out in your example - they understand basically everything that is explained to them - but can not USE the knowledge or apply it in the "real world". My fear/concer in limiting yourself to taking advice from only people who have designations is that you fall into that trap. In a recent thread, you engaged in a debate about round-back lifting. this is a perfect example of that kind of (less-than-accurate) advice. I believe (much like you) that the human body can adapt to pretty much anything via a controlled, logical, rational and gradual process. (Evidence - evolution). I for example owe round back lifting (atlas stones, to be precise) credit for correcting a severe back injury suffered in a car accident. Most "certified trainers" however will adamantly insist that you refrain from that kind of lifting. In my case, following a professional's advice brought me only part way to resolution. It was the advice of an experienced lifter (who lifts for the joy of lifting, with no designation, but heaps of experience) recommended i "play with his atlas stones" to ensure i was working my back from all possible angles and positions that solved my problem. My back is much stronger and healthier today than it was before the accident. I owe this to experience over theory. For me, its a simple matter of "In God we trust - everyone else bring data". Theory is great - evidence is better. -Bill


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