Thanks for your reply tim! an interesting story you gave which i can relate to a little in the sense that my parents especially my mother would also find an excuse to hit me saying i was " being a little "s&%t" " and various other horrible things, of course when i got older, stronger and more sensible i realised it wasn't my fault. she won't be hitting me again. it is never never NEVER alright to hit a child. never. there is NO EXCUSE. hitting children ( or anyone else outwith consensual self defence martial arts training) is PHYSICAL ABUSE. telling children it's their fault because they "HAVE BEEN BAD" is "grooming for physical abuse" and "you know very well what i mean by that"!
anyone want to dispute that you can talk to me in person so i can see who you are and make damn F^&*($g sure abusive people won't be justifying physical abuse anymore.
have a nice day, and i really mean that. :0) nc
ps. the "fight or flight" response in humans is part of our evolutionary physiology and needs to be maintained and encouraged to prevent:
stress > depression > ( irrational )anger > "hyperactivity" ergo high adrenalin outdoor activities and more sport in general.
respect is earned and people should be treated with respect no matter how old they are, reasoning and rationalisation should be done with children as they are not stupid and understand what you say to them without physical abuse punctuation, if someone has done something wrong they should be told why it's wrong and of course if this is done as a praise sandwhich thus: praise[constructive criticism]praise: eg: you have done very well today with scoring that goal at football........(normal conversation about good stuff with people always cushions any criticism as it is then just seen as another truthful comment based on fact, which always earns respect) you're room is a mess please tidy it, then if you like we can make dinner together, then all go for a walk to the beach.....that type of thing!
well done for reading thus far! it means you are not in the huff about what i said before and that you may actually stand a chance of me wanting to meet you!
nice point about the brown paper bag, see " other environmental oestrogens from petrochemical products e.g. ritalin and seratonin suppressors.
You lost me a little at the end, but your logic is solid, and yes, farming is good, as is most physical activity. I still don't understand the poll about women being given ritalin though.
Now, on the subject of "children in general" being given ritalin and other drugs for ADD, etc, I am very outspoken, and happen to agree with you. I'm 57, grew up in a post WWII environment. Kids went out and played, and unless you lived outside of a two mile radius of your school, you walked or rode your bike to school.There wasn't much public transportation where I grew up.You played sports during recess, had an actual Phys Ed class in schools all the way through High School, and when you got home from school, you walked or rode the bike down to the nearest park area and played sports. If you wanted to go anywere, you got yourself there.Parents weren't chauffeurs. After dinner, you did your studies. Period. no TV. Parents actually instilled discipline and respect into the kids, and you NEVER back-talked an adult, or especially a teacher. I I did that, the Principle would have nailed me first, called my father, then I'd have got a double whammy y Dad. There was no such thing as ADD recognized by any physicians. In my opinion, its due to multiple factors, those being lack of discipline, a terrible diet (we didn't have many fast food joints pushing grease and sugar on us back then, our parents gave us good whole food and sent us off to school with good food in a brown paper bag) and society in general trying to find an excuse for the above. Now, they fill the children up with drugs and ignore the root causes of the problem. OK, I'm done, end of rant.