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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:07 am 
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i gonna start using Hydroxycut by tomorrow..

i just bought it 3 hrs ago..it is just the fat burner available for those who had exercise program.. i read some topics about hydroxycut recall..but 23 out of a million..dahhhhhhhhhhh!!

it said first 3 days = 1 caplet/3x a day, day 4 onward = 2 caplet/3x a day..
always 50-60 min before eating

Q: 2 caplet by day 4 and 3 times a day..im 19, does it sounds good?

im planning to take it before my AM cardio around 5-6 am which my breakfast is around 7-8 am, then 11 am before lunch by 12 noon then 5-6pm before 7-8pm snack..

i ate 4-5 times a day as always recommended for diet..
low calorie diet, low cab

im planning to use protein shake maybe next 3-4 months..im just focusing now eliminating body fats...

comments Suggestions Violent reactions are greatly appreciated..


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:05 am 
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It's a crap product to start with and now that it's being recalled you're going to start using it. To be blunt, that's just stupid.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:04 pm 
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Seriously?

Whatever happened to controlling portions and nutrient profiles? Whatever happened to learning how your body responds to different foods? Whatever happened to eating whole food?

I don't understand the NEED for these pills in the first place. I do see their place for certain individuals, in certain circumstances, like professionals looking to get stage ready maybe.

But IMO, a person who is not a fitness model/bodybuilder/cutting weight for mma or boxing/any other such profession I think normal, healthy, "clean" eating is a much better approach to fat loss.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:19 pm 
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There are plenty of people with poor genetics who could use some help. However these pills don't work. Or at least they won't help with fat mobilization, which is the only legitimate problem.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:47 am 
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make sure it doesnt have ephedra in it

and it basically justs supresses appetites rather than burning fat.

also on may 1 the fda announced that there have been allot of liver problems because of it and 1 death, they are now ordering a recall.


http://www.hydroxycutinformation.com/

There were only about 23 cases though. Im sure you'll be fine, id get a physical to make sure your liver is working properly already though.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:01 am 
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and it basically justs supresses appetites rather than burning fat
What? Ephedra does a little more than just supress appetite.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:50 am 
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as adviced..

i take it at AM cardio and before workout..

thanks man for reply..although..xD


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:17 pm 
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stuward wrote:
It's a crap product to start with and now that it's being recalled you're going to start using it. To be blunt, that's just stupid.
It is being recalled for I think 1 death and some people with liver damage out of hundreds of thousands of users vs 16500 deaths from NSAIDS.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:00 pm 
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Ironmaiden NSAIDs have millions of users not just hundreds of thousands and there is legitimate research to back NSAIDs up as doing what they are supposed to do! Not to mentin a lot of people who take NSAIDs are on death's door already, not healthy young people trying to lose weight, the number of Cancer patients on NSAIDs is staggering, it would only take a few incorrect 'cause fo death's' to up the number of deaths attributed to NSAIDs by a huge amount. NSAIDs are primarily used for pain relief not false weightloss promises, it's like comparing apples and chihuahua's!

I think these 'weightloss' pills should be banned anyway, the makers only seek to increase their own profits by praying on the feeble minded and those at their wits end with being fat! It's like buying the AB Ripper 2000 (or whatever other junk is on infomercials these days) and expecting that 5 minutes 3 times a week will get you totally buff like the models they show on the ads! It's just dumb!

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Ironmaiden NSAIDs have millions of users not just hundreds of thousands and there is legitimate research to back NSAIDs up as doing what they are supposed to do!

Ok even if you had equal amounts of users between diet pills and nsaids you would still have a larger number of deaths from the prescription drugs that's the only thing I am trying to argue here. I don't give a $h1t how legit they are in comparison to diet pills.

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Not to mentin a lot of people who take NSAIDs are on death's door already, not healthy young people trying to lose weight, the number of Cancer patients on NSAIDs is staggering, it would only take a few incorrect 'cause fo death's' to up the number of deaths attributed to NSAIDs by a huge amount. NSAIDs are primarily used for pain relief not false weightloss promises, it's like comparing apples and chihuahua's!
So you are assuming that the 16500 deaths and 103,000 hospital visits attributed to adverse effects from the use of NSAIDS are incorrect? They just happen to be on NSAIDS when they coincidentally had a myocardial infarction even though there is a direct link between its use and an increased risk. That's quite a bit of error

To make a comment on 'false weightloss promises'... they do work. They are an AID, that is it. People who do are severly out of shape and have no knowledge of exercise/nutrition shouldn't be taking these pills. Not the fault of the makers.

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I think these 'weightloss' pills should be banned anyway, the makers only seek to increase their own profits by praying on the feeble minded and those at their wits end with being fat! It's like buying the AB Ripper 2000 (or whatever other junk is on infomercials these days) and expecting that 5 minutes 3 times a week will get you totally buff like the models they show on the ads! It's just dumb!


Ban weightloss pills because they create capital for the producers and prey on the 'feeble minded?' You can argue that about ANYTHING we buy as consumers including what's churned out by the drug industry. Big difference between fatloss pills and gimicky exercise machines, that is a 'apples to chihuahua's' comparison.


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So after reading into your numbers on NSAIDs the main thing I come away from it with is that the main cause of any adverse reaction is misuse of the product! So I guess reading a lable wouldn't go astray, but by the sounds of the recall letter put out by the manufacturer/distributor of Hydroxycut the adverse reactions happened to people using the drug appropraitely! It's still Apples and Chihuahua's cause one has a PROVEN legitimate use and the other has a POSSIBLE legitimate use!

John


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