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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:04 pm 
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Hi people. Thought I'd sticky one of Peter's on a good website for fat analysis and the omega 3's. The US got into a big tiff over fats in the 1980's; the result being those stupid very low fat diets those nutritionists came up with made people even fatter and more obese.

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FWIW this list at whfoods has been handy for me:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tnam ... nt&dbid=84

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Here's a good fat link from Stuward. There is getting to be a lot of stickies so I thought I'd just drop it in here.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fats/


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Tks IM/Stu. Good article. Anyone w/add-ons or comments to a sticky, post away.
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Here's some more on Omega 3 from Mark's Daily Apple: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/omega-3-fatty-acid/

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The other day we talked about the different types of fats and I mentioned that CLA was a healthy natural trans fats. Since this thread is about fat, I thought this would be the appropriate place to post this.

This article today by Dr. Mercola talks specifically about natural vs man-made trans fats: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... ?source=nl

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There is NO Safe Level of Man-Made Trans Fats


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stuward wrote:
This article today by Dr. Mercola talks specifically about natural vs man-made trans fats: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... ?source=nl


While Mercola does seem to have some good ideas from his site...not using plastic jugs for water and what not, it does seem he has a lot of false information on his site... Such as his claim that drinking cold water destroys your stomach lining, even though in sports, you are told to drink cold water because the body absorbs it faster.

So how much from Mercola should I really believe? This isn't against you stuward, but there is just so much BS with no scientific evidence that I'm having to read through and filter out online, that it just gets aggravating and time consuming.


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...there is just so much BS with no scientific evidence that I'm having to read through and filter out online...


It's hard, there is no question about that. I usually look for advise from at least 2 unrelated sources. Dr. Mercola is closly associated with the Weston Price group so any time I see something from someone in that group, I cansider it the same source. The CLA/Trans fat issue I wrote about is one issue which I feel comfortable with. Sunlight as the main sourse of Vitamin D is another. He's recently reversed his position on cod liver oil. I haven't paid attention to cold water as an issue. It seems to me that as long as it's somewhere warmer than icy and cooler than hot, it doesn't matter much. That could be an issue for another thread if you want to explore it further.


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Sunlight as the main sourse of Vitamin D is another.


I absolutely love it how ExRx's site breaks down the micronutrients into what they do and where to get it from. Like how it says just 5 min a day of sunlight on your hands and face is enough Vitamin D for the day, and you can even store more of it for later use by staying out more(of course lol). They don't always have references to their information though, but honestly everything Ive read on their site, matches every scientific report or finding I've come across :).


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TimD wrote:
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FWIW this list at whfoods has been handy for me:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tnam ... nt&dbid=84

I don't get it. If the whole hubbub is about balance between ω−6 and ω−3, why advocate eating walnuts?
They have a 4.2:1 ratio between the two, going the 'opposite' way: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/nut- ... cts/3138/2


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The 4:1 ratio is better than most people get but it's not great. The best place to get your O3 from fish. The bottom line is enjoy nuts for their own sake. Eat variety and eat fish daily, especially, tuna, salmon and herring.


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A very interesting article series going on at http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/


http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2 ... sease.html
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2 ... iseas.html

The article is rather technical but the bottom line is clear: "In sum, this suggests that the single best way to avoid a heart attack is to reduce omega-6 consumption and ensure an adequate source of omega-3. The lower the omega-6, the less the omega-3 matters."

It's interesting that there is no optimal ratio ratio of O3:O6. The higher the ratio the better and the lower the O6, the better. You don't see much benefit of reducing O6 until you get down to 4% of diet or less and then it improves as you go lower. People eating a western diet have well over 4% O6 in there diet so most studies don't see much effect of changing O6 levels because they never get low enough.


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Stu--Good links. I'm going to read more of what he writes!


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I don't have a link handy but heard that omega 3's can also keep the flu or h1n1 at bay. There was a study and two groups were monitored who contracted H1N1, the group that took omega 3's recovered much, much quicker than the other group. It was done in China.


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This article talks about it: http://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/good-fa ... ut-omega-3

Fish (Sockeye Salmon) is the best way to get Omega 3. The added benefit is the extra vitamin D and calcium.


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You don't glimpse much advantage of decreasing O6 until you get down to 4% of diet or less and then it advances as you proceed lower. People consuming a western diet have well over 4% O6 in there diet so most investigations don't glimpse much result of altering O6 grades because they not ever get reduced enough.


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