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 Post subject: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 am 
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I am discovering the wonderful prices that are Mexican markets
15 oz of sardines for $1.98 That is crazy.
I dont' know, about all the freash meat prices but what I saw looked reasonable to better than I get elsewhere.
Chicharrons for $5.99/lb.

It's safe, right?


of course what lead me there was the meat packed $1.65 {fill in your favorit Mexican street taco meat here} corn tortilla tacos

Anyway, many folks are looking for cheaper places to buy healthy food (well, skip the taco, but buy the meats). For a guy who resists changes, I'm slowly expanding my sights.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:29 am 
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You in Mexico now? Wonderful place.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:15 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:34 pm 
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same thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
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Oscar, to you talk like someone from Alabama?

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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:34 pm 
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Jungledoc wrote:
Oscar, to you talk like someone from Alabama?


I say Ma'am and Sir
I say y'all
I may say fix'n occasionally.
Hardly ever use "ain't"
Otherwise generally I am not a southerner in terms of demeanor (more high strung and sarcastic, for example)

I was raised mid western until sophmore year, when we moved to TN. Then I move (back) to IN from age 30 to 38. Then God told me to get out of that horrible place (my job, not the state. And I'm not sure it was actually God, or my survival instinct). That brought me to Alabama.

From my limited range of experience between TN and AL, I reckon AL is more rugged. More folks let their weeds grow as they might. And that symbolic of a less "manicured" demographic.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:05 am 
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Mind. Blown.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:05 am 
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Hannan is a bot. Specifically, a text generation bot. The bot is given a handful of keywords and it generates text that appears at first glance to be explaining a thesis. What it is actually doing is simply generating sentences where each sentence continues somewhat the same semantic content (keyword-associated ideas) of the previous sentence while shifting the topic slightly. That structure is what is taught in any good course on expository text. However, it helps if there is a point to be made.

The dead give-away is the "where's this going?" feeling you get after a few sentences. There is no underlying thesis, hence it makes no sense.

But not a bad job overall.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:36 am 
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cool explanation
So whats the purpose? (incentive?)


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:45 am 
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My guess is Turing test. Somebody just playing with some code and we're the lucky winners. Although the same bot is probably generating text on a great many forums all over the world and gathering statistics on the reactions of users.

If we identify it as a bot it fails the test. Getting banned would serve as a proxy for being identified as a bot, that would mean a fail.

Any result short of getting banned means we think its a person, and that counts as a pass. Then you measure how many posts it can make over how long a period and continue to generate responses without getting banned. The longer the better.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:27 pm 
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ah, I see.
cheers.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
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So is somebody just writing that for fun? Is there profit for someone?

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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
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Jungledoc wrote:
So is somebody just writing that for fun? Is there profit for someone?


It can be argued Google's entire fortune is based on what we call "semantic analysis", the ability to parse human-language text and really get at what it means. Generating text is the reverse process and aids understanding of the entire discipline.

Typical conversations at my job go like this: Can you take the entire US Federal Code, analyze it with sufficient confidence to expose contradictions, gray spots, etc. If you could, what if you could go a step further and specifically search for tax loopholes? We are getting there by degrees.

But for Hannan, looks like a fairly amateur effort.

...and of course I could be completely wrong. There's a first for everything. :grin: Actually, once I thought I was wrong, but it turns out I was mistaken.


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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
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So it's done as an academic exercise?

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 Post subject: Re: Meixcan Markets
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:07 pm 
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I'm impressed by Ken's infrequently displayed intelligence

This has been a truly interesting topic.
Not so much the Mexican market part. But that other stuff.


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