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 Post subject: Favorite Machines?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:18 am 
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Like most of the users here, I prefer to do most of my weight training with barbells and dumbbells. However, there are a few machine exercises I really like. These include:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Bac ... neRow.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Qua ... Press.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Ham ... gCurl.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Gas ... Press.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Sol ... Raise.html

Anyway, I was just currious what machine lifts other people are using.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:56 am 
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I like all of the machines you've posted except for the hamstring machine. Just personal preference. Also, I love the Smith machine.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:31 pm 
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I like the Hammer Strength ground base series, especially the Combo Twist, Jammerand Squat Lunge

They have a training video using the equipment here

As for your list, I can see why it is dominated by calf machines - the calves are really difficult to exercise without the use of machines.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:58 am 
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Machines? what are those?.......it took me 44 years before I finally used a smith press and that was in a sporting goods store messing around with my son seeing what they had for sale. Although I have been known to complain about wanting a good leg press from time to time....

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:06 am 
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A gym I used to workout at had a Hammer Strength seated row machine that I liked a lot. The handles angled in slightly, so you'de get a better stretch and a fuller contraction. Overall the exercise felt a lot like a Dumbbell Row.

Meanwhile, I never cared for Smith Machine Presses, although I did do a lot of Smith Machine Squats back in high school.


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I also used to do a lot of these back in high school ... good exercise.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Bac ... erRow.html


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I said I USED to do a lot of Smith Machine Squats. The YMCA I was going to at the time didn't have a squat cage. Barbell Squats are definitely a better exercise.


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How are we classifying a machine here? It seems like a pulldown machine would have to qualify since it has parts that move while you are doing the exercise.

If it doesn't count as a machine, then a lot of things shouldn't either.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:38 am 
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I think a cable pulldown station is a type of machine, although some people would place cables in their own category, since they're more versitile than most other machines.


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Several years ago, Muscle Media magazine ran a story by someone who went to the Muscle Beach Gold's Gym to observe how pro bodybuilders actually trained before contests. He found that few of them used the routines that they claimed to use in the muscle magazine articles. And he found that the bodybuilders made heavy use of - horrors! - machines in their workouts. He concluded the article with the theory that most pro bodybuilders have already achieved their mass, so their workouts were based more on refinement rather than growth.

Never having gone to Muscle Beach, I can't verify the accuracy of the article. I've been trying to find a link to it, but I have not been siuccessful doing it. Nevertheless, I decided to throw that little tidbit out

BTW - the current issue of Muscle and Fitness has an article comparing the Smith bench press vs the freeweight bench. It turns out that their bodybuilder sample group could bench MORE weight with the freeweight bench. Something to do with the Smith machine's linear motion limiting the curve in the lift that occurs in the freeweight variation. Interesting stuff


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Friends don't let friends use smith machines.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:52 am 
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Then it will comfort you to know that I haven't used one in years.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:13 am 
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PS.) Bodybuilders often train very differently pre-contest than they do the rest of the year. Also, in recent years many pro bodybuilders have become very aprehensive about heavy, free-weight movements. I think this has a lot to do the tremendous amounts of performance-enhancing drugs that most of them are using, which increase the risk of training injuries. Steroids for example supress cortisol, a hormone which, among other things, is involved in the maintenance and repair of connective tissues. The same performance-enhancing drugs also reduce their need to train with heavy weights.


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