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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:37 am 
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Hi I'm a beginner to powerlifting and I still use a double overhand grip, because it's not failed me yet. I'm wary of a bicep tear and also, when I use under/over even if my hands are in the exact same spot, the elbow of my underhook hand is further in than it would be if I was using an overhand grip, it gets in the way of my knee and causes my knee to collapse inwards.

What kind of weights were you guys pulling before your grip first failed? And for those of you who started out doing over/over, what weight were you forced to switch? Right now I can pull about 160kg.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:01 am 
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screamingjesus wrote:
Hi I'm a beginner to powerlifting and I still use a double overhand grip, because it's not failed me yet. I'm wary of a bicep tear


Bicep Tear

The number of bicep tears from deadlifting are remote.

Your odds of being injured in a car wreck are greater


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and also, when I use under/over even if my hands are in the exact same spot, the elbow of my underhook hand is further in than it would be if I was using an overhand grip, it gets in the way of my knee and causes my knee to collapse inwards.


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What kind of weights were you guys pulling before your grip first failed? And for those of you who started out doing over/over, what weight were you forced to switch? Right now I can pull about 160kg.


I have no idea.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:57 am 
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I think the worry about bicep tears came from an t-nation article by CT. Prior to that no one worried about it. I've heard of tire flips and power curls causing bicep tears.

This is interesting. http://www.coreperformance.com/knowledg ... iceps.html

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:36 pm 
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Kenny Croxdale wrote:

This is hard to picture. A video would make this easier to understand. [/color]


I don't have a video right now, I'll try to explain better.
My arms rub my knees when I deadlift, so there's no space there. That's what I've found most comfortable. if i rotate to an underhand grip the elbow rotates inwards basically closing up that space even more.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:36 am 
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keep your arms at full extension, then your elbow doesn't rotate inwards and then a biceps tear is even more unlikely.

an alternative is using the hook grip, but it's hard on the thumb.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:09 am 
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arms are extended of course.... try it for yourself right now put your arm out infront of you overhand then rotate to underhand. The elbow moves in. it's bumping into my leg because of that.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:35 am 
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Then grip a bit wider or use the hook grip. But don't get the idea to use straps to still be able to use the overhand grip ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:24 am 
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screamingjesus wrote:
...What kind of weights were you guys pulling before your grip first failed? And for those of you who started out doing over/over, what weight were you forced to switch? Right now I can pull about 160kg.


To give you some relief ;) I first started to use a mixed grip at 80kg work sets (overhand grip didn`t fail, but pulling turned uncomfortable then). My calc. 1RM is now just around 130kg or a bit more @80kg bodyweight, so nothing worth mentioning really... but today 80kg (and a bit more) isn`t a problem with an overhand grip and I also do 5x10x70kg when doing 5/3/1 BBB without a problem...

I normally switch hands when doing my worksets.


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