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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:41 pm 
Likewise, you can't get a full peak contraction of the pectorals doing dumbbell presses. Rotating your wrists may allow your chest to contract a little more fully at the top, but the difference would be only slight. Meanwhile, you would probably have to use less weight, which would take away from the overall effectiveness of the exercise.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:10 pm 
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Stephen Johnson wrote:
JeffD wrote:
I think the whole inner chest thing is just a myth...ala spot reduction
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Bodybuilders are notorious for altering/modifying exercises to target specific parts of a muscle's structure. If it isn't effective, one wonders why they continue to do it. Pro bodybuilders have little use for training methods that don't work.


It is my belief that pro bodybuilders are on so many different drugs that they have no way of discerning what works and what doesn't.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:09 pm 
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Matt Z wrote:
My point is merely that crossovers allow you to target your chest in a very different way than presses and dumbbell flyes.


Oh, I definitely agree, matter of fact, I don't perform dumbbell presses or flyes in my current program, only cable crossovers.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:55 am 
George G wrote:
Stephen Johnson wrote:
JeffD wrote:
I think the whole inner chest thing is just a myth...ala spot reduction
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Bodybuilders are notorious for altering/modifying exercises to target specific parts of a muscle's structure. If it isn't effective, one wonders why they continue to do it. Pro bodybuilders have little use for training methods that don't work.


It is my belief that pro bodybuilders are on so many different drugs that they have no way of discerning what works and what doesn't.


That is exactly what i was thinking. I mean when you're juiced and doing like 20 different exercises per workout how do you really know whats doing what. This guy probably does cable crossovers, flies, close grip, wide grip, incline, decline, etc. Could just have the genetics that make the inner portion look good as well..


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:03 am 
Not all pro bodybuilders use high volume training. Also, there are "natural" bodybuilding contests. They just aren't as popular as the untested contests. Meanwhile, bodybuilders aren't the only atheletes using performance enhancing drugs.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:12 pm 
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Whether you do flys, dumbbell presses...crossovers...
It doesn't matter if you're not lean. Losing body fat is the key to showing off your hard work...the definition you're after.

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