Silver, both Ironman and Viking make valid points about rows and chins. They really are a bit different. Chins/pullups work the vertical plane, while rows work the horizontal, and as we all know, the back is very complex, and to work it thoroghly, you really need at least 4 or 5 movements. You might hate them but I think rows, with various grips, hit the mid back almost as well, but in a different way, than deadlifts. Elbows out, you're going to get the big traps, rhomboids, and to some extent the lats. Here is something I do when wanting to split the middle between row and chins. I call it a body row, I think another poster calls it supine rowing, not sure on that one. I put a bar in the rack, as if squatting, get below it facing the bar, and take the grip of the day(I vary it, pronated, supine, wide, narrow, I just toss a coin) and row/chin myself up at about a 45 degree angle. It's fairly easy, so I only use this on high volume/high reps, but it does do the trick. Hope this helps.
what you were talking about?