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is it safe to assume coffee doesn't have a bad effect on your teeth?

I could cut the diet out if I had another caffeine heavy drink.

I drink approximately 600mg of caffeine a day, typically, sometimes more.

If this stuff is beyond you, why are you talking about it? So I suppose that means explaining to you what is wrong with these studies would be a waste of time.

In that case just look at this.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/fact ... /aspartame

You got my position right. If you like soda, drink diet. If you were never much of a soda drinker, then there is no reason to drink diet soda. It is nothing but flavored, caffeinated water. It is no more helpful than anything else that is mostly water, and it's not harmful either.

If there is no acidity or sugar, it's not bad for your teeth. Acidity is way overblown too. The main thing is sugar, and having the harmful variety of the two types of oral bacteria.

Like many people, you would get a lot of benefits from taking a class in critical thinking. Or at least google Carl Sagan's baloney detection kit.

Interesting that link is from the same site as the link regarding formaldehyde. We must read the same chain mail

I'm pretty sure many here discuss topics that are beyond them. According to a recent thread, obesity is beyond everyone so, why do we discuss it at all?

Explaining what is wrong with those studies would not be a waste of time. I'm here to learn (not be patronised). You constantly go on about junk science and conspiracies so, feel free to let me have it. I was simply showing that what I said didn't come from 'chain mail' as you put it.

I like to reach Peter Rouses blog (He posted here once or twice actually). If there's anyone who thinks the food/sugar industry is corrupt, it's him. He has lots of experience plus an MS in Biochemistry. What's interesting is that he believes the 'research' showing aspartame to be safe is actually BACKED by the sugar industry where as you believe the opposite. So, what's an uninformed guy like myself supposed to believe?

http://coachrouse.wordpress.com/2010/02 ... minosweet/

Also, and yet again, my point was 'why risk it'. When I did drink soda I hated the diet stuff, it tasted like crap (in comparison). You basically have to make yourself get used to it then it starts to taste nice. Why not just do that with with water/tea then it doesn't matter whether there's dangers to aspartame or not. That was always my point, you don't need to agree with it, you know.

KPj

What's also interesting is that if anyone went on like that, the thread would get locked down.....

Acidity is definitely not "way overblown". If anything, it's not mentioned nearly enough in the usual media circles. For instance, for years I had no idea how acidic spinach was, although I always noticed my teeth felt kind of rough after eating it. I'd already cut out soda and fruit juice, and ketchup, the only other high-acid things I ate, and still had bad teeth problems. On the next dentist visits after cutting out spinach, he was baffled at how great my teeth were doing - he said something like "you're in the top 1% easily of teeth health."

actually acidity is way overblown, really it is.
The damage caused by chewing or drinking something pales in comparison to the damage caused by acidic bi-products of bacteria in your mouth consuming leftover sugars.

http://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_dec ... caries.htm

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I don't even know what to say to that..... You're missing a lot of prerequisite knowledge. I gave you suggestions about rectifying that. I can always find links to these type of things if you want to learn.

Went on like what?

The only time threads get locked is when people start name calling and trading insults, or hijacking the thread. Nothing like that is going on here.

Yes, bacteria is one factor but also food acid is another: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 204535.htm

Nobody is disputing it being a factor. It just isn't as big of a factor as other things.

If you're talking about the average American that consumes mass quantities of sugar, well sure. But if someone is watching sugar and drinking 6 cans of diet soda every day it -is- a big factor.

Well, the thing is, there are two different strains of oral bacteria a person can have. One type is harmless. However the other type produces very acidic waste that seems to eat through teeth very easily. The bacteria feed on sugar. But I would agree that excessive soda drinking is bad for your teeth. Especially if you don't drink some water afterwords and it stays on your teeth longer.