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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Hi !

Recently a doctor has discovered that i have decreased S-shaped curve. That's because 7-8 years ago I fell down from a tree. Now I am 17, I don't feel pain, but I have decreased kyphosis (hypokyphosis). The doctor said that I musn't put my spine on any vertical tension , which means no olympic weightlifting, no pull ups ... etc He said that i should do correcting exercises and strechess but he didn't say anything specific. So I am opened for suggestions

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:34 pm 
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Are you having any pain associated with it? The condition itself doesn't usually cause pain but the presence of pain may point to a cause of the condition that may need to be corrected medically. I'm going to assume no pain since the doctor suggested exercise.

Are you doing any exercise now? At 17 most boys are active and growing stronger very fast. Can you give us an idea of where you are with exercise now?

In general, you should still be able to do horizontal pressing and pulling exercises like push ups and inverted rows and lower body exercises like squats and deadlifts along with core stabilty exercises like planks, etc. If you're not exercising at all now, you should start with basic bodyweight routine encompassing those movements to start with.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:53 pm 
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stuward wrote:
At 17 most boys are active and growing stronger very fast.


if only that were true .

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:18 am 
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Oscar_Actuary wrote:
stuward wrote:
At 17 most boys are active and growing stronger very fast.


if only that were true .

:pale:

How about, growing stronger at the fastest pace. Each are obviously different from each other but the strength growth peaks in the late teens.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:40 am 
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Hi, stuward !

I haven't stopped doing work outs. I am doing dips,inverted rows,air squat,lunges, central plank. But I am not doing any cleans&Jerks barbell squats and deadlifts, which is my passion :)

Few mounths ago I was hanging to much on the pull up bar and I felt pain between the scapulas and i tought that I have streched the lower trapizius muscle. I began thightening that muscles and the pain was gone. But the doctor said that the pain was not from a strech, but from the thoraxic spine.

It might be nessecary to say that I have hypermobility syndrome, because of the trauma in my back. The body has begat loosening the joints and I fell pain from time to time. I am fixing that by thightening the pulling muscles and streching the pushing muscles. When I visit that doctor I understood that thightening the muscles of the back is wrong and i have to strech and do some exercises.

Thank you for your comment :)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:52 am 
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It sounds like you have a good base to build upon. Keep doing what you're doing. Your problem is the opposite of what most people have. As you noted, you should be strengthening the anterior muscles and stretching the back, particularily the spinal erectors, to allow the upper back to bend forward. Many of the standard core stability exercises would still apply so the recent articles by Bret Contreras and Mike Robertson would apply. I have a concern with squatting and deadlifts. I don't know how your body would react to those. I think the main obhjective for now, is to get to the point where you can safely do those exercises. That's out of my depth. You probably should look up guys like Mike Robertson, Mike Boyle or Charlie Wiengrof and get their opinions on your situation. They don't bite and they have a wealth of experience that you can tap into. They all have blogs and are all on Facebook.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:45 pm 
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stuward

Thank you a LOT for the help !

I gave a peak on those people blog's and didn't found much info for hypokyphosis, but i'll try to PM them on facebook, hopefully they will answer.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:27 pm 
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Lifter--What kind of doctor is this? Is he or she an MD, DO or MBBS? Or is he a chiropractor or naturpath? Something about this just doesn't ring true to me. I mean, if he is telling you to do corrective exercises and stretching, but can't tell you what those exercises or stretches are, something isn't square. Have you sought a second (or third) opinion?

By the way, how do dips stretch your spine any less than chinups?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:08 am 
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Hi Jungledoc !

I am not familiar with the medicine system outside of Bulgaria and I don't know what an MD, DO or MBB is. He is something like a psyhoterapist. He's fixing sport traumas. But for my case, he said that i will need a lot of time, which he doesn't have. So he told me to look for streching and fixing exercises for the muscles of around the thoraxic spine. Unfortunately there aren't many good doctors (that's why he is so busy) and I can't find a not dump psyhoterapist to show me what exactly to do.

I have a X-ray picture of my spine, but of cource the dump doctors made a frontal picture, but it is still noticeble the difference in space between the lumbar vertebras and the thoraxic vertebra. Those around the thorax are bunched together.

If you want I could PM you a photo of the X-ray picture .

About the dips - I have no idea. Probably I missed understood him. I asked if I can do push ups and he said "Yes, you can, also you can do something like this "(he mimiced something like a dip, but it maybe was a push up) on the parallel bars.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:13 pm 
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Those are medical degrees in the US and in the British Commonwealth. I don't know what the medical degree is in Bulgaria. I was just wondering if this is really a doctor, or if he is in some kind of ancillary profession, such as chiropractor, naturopath, etc. Maybe you don't have those either, so maybe you wouldn't know.

The apparent bunching of the vertebrae on the x-ray is probably due to the curvature of the spine, and the fact that the vertebrae aren't aligned straight with the film. If you want to send a photo I can give you one country doctor's opinion. PM or post it here, either one. It's unfortunate that there isn't a side view. Without it I don't know how anyone could have known what he said to you.

I think that the word you were looking for is "dumb" not "dump". If so, let's just talk about the facts, and not disparage someone when we don't have all the facts that he had. He saw you in person--we can't.

You might also post posture photos of yourself--side, front, back. Shirtless, if you don't mind.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:53 pm 
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Unfortunately I can't post pictures here, so if anyone is intrested i could PM them.

Also i am sorry for my not so good English

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:17 pm 
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Your English is much better than my Bulgarian!

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You will be able to post pictures soon. Try again.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:07 pm 
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Jungledoc wrote:
Your English is much better than my Bulgarian!

it's about as good as your English


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Oscar, I, along with a few dozen of my PNG friends will be laying in wait for you some dark night when you least expect it.

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