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Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:34 am
by stuward
Bench, SDT
8x45
5x95
3x115
1x135
1x145
2x4x255
That's great progress on your bench press.

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:44 am
by Jungledoc
Thanks, Stu. I plan on 110-pound jumps from now on.

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:44 pm
by pdellorto
Oh, only 50 pounds more than my best single?

What happened dude, you used to be strong.

;)

Impressive, really. :D

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:05 am
by Proper Knob
Could tell me what the different abbreviations stand for please Doc? ie. BV, NBV, SP-V, DP-R, S et al

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:01 am
by Jungledoc
pdellorto wrote:Oh, only 50 pounds more than my best single?

What happened dude, you used to be strong.

;)

Impressive, really. :D
My typing fingers? Yeah, they make me look pretty strong!

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:24 am
by Jungledoc
Proper Knob wrote:Could tell me what the different abbreviations stand for please Doc? ie. BV, NBV, SP-V, DP-R, S et al
It's all from Eric Troy's "SDT" idea.

BV=base volume
NBV is not Eric's abbreviation, but mine for "new base volume"
SP=single progression
DP=double progression
TP=triple progression

The three types of progression are R=reps, S=sets, W=weight. V isn't Eric's either, but I guess I used it meaning "volume", when I probably should have used R.

I'll find a link and add it.
http://www.gustrength.com/training:sing ... rogression

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:35 pm
by KenDowns
Jungledoc wrote:Bulgarians—Way harder that they look. Maybe I'm making it harder than I should. These really wore me out today.
They do that. They are much harder than they look.

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:47 am
by Proper Knob
Good job on those PR's Doc, maybe i need a week at the beach?! :grin:

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:26 pm
by Oscar_Actuary
you are impressing me

How do you like the prioritizing of lifts ?

Here you are getitting records on multiple lifts. Do you see it as more of a psycological method... or do you think there is more carry over to seemingly unrelated exercises, so really, you aren't losing out much as one might think?

Please, carry on.


eTA: My question makes much less sence on paper. Fill in as you see fit

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:44 pm
by Jungledoc
I think it's a good idea, the prioritizing. I'm not sure why I have made the gains across all 4 lifts. Maybe I'm not "deprioritizing" bench, squat and chins as much as I thought. Or maybe I should be surprised that I didn't make a bigger jump in DL. Except that DL for me had really ground to a halt, in terms of progress.

I don't think its psychological. At least, I came into max testing feeling pretty apprehensive, and not really well-prepared psychologically.

Also, I do think there is some carry-over between squat and DL.

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:42 pm
by Oscar_Actuary
I wonder if someone never bench pressed. Deadlifted for a year. What that would do to their bench press.

How much does the body jsut "grow all over" because it thinks "we've got work to do". Vs how much of it is specific to the task/load you are putting on it.

IIR rip speaks on this

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:54 am
by Jungledoc
There's the idea that GH and other related hormones stimulated by heavy compound lifting cause muscle growth in muscles not specifically trained. There's also the left-right thing, and I think that there is some empiric evidence for this, that training one side causes the other side to get stronger. That's probably neural.

What I'm saying is that I don't know, but it's not a ridiculous idea.

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:12 pm
by stuward
Not to discount the hormone thing but I think the tension caused by strenuous effort affects the whole body. Pavel calls this irradiation. That's why he likes the deadlift so much.
http://www.olusa.com/books/pavel/ptp-toc.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:23 pm
by Proper Knob
4 x 390 on the deadlift? I thought things were picking up on this lift, but whooaaaa?

Re: Andy's Journal Comments

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:26 pm
by Matt Z
Deadlifts also strengthen the upper back. This could improve benching, by improving stability ... allowing a person to press more efficiently. The same would be true for rows, only more so.

Having a weak back can really hold back pressing in general, and predispose one to shoulder injuries. This is very common with gym rats only interested in beach muscle.