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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:32 am
by mattk25
When is the best time to drink a protein shake?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:08 pm
by Rik-Blades
When your body has about digested the last lot of Protein, and you dont have plans to eat a high Protein meal.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:31 pm
by TimD
I guess the above is a relevant answer, but to be more specific;
A. Post workout
B. In between larger meals as a lowere calorie protein infusio to ensure you have amino acids present in your bloodstream.
C. Right before reireing at night. A lower digesting protein , such as Cassein would help prevent catabolism during your nightly fast.
Tim

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:16 pm
by mattk25
Yeah what I was asking basically was should I drink one as a Pre or Post workout drink? or is there a specific time I should be say after a meal, in between a meal, etc.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:53 pm
by TimD
I'm not a big fan of pre-workout, as I've never had problems getting through a workout, but many others are, and there is some scientific evidence to back it up. I believe its around an hour before. As to post workout, I believe the window of best absorbtion is from the finish to about 45 mins out.
Tim

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:44 pm
by pdellorto
I drink a whey protein shake pre-workout, and then I drink a whey protein/Muscle Milk shake immediately post workout (as I stand in the gym).

That has been working well for me. The advantage is the speed of eating - I can get 40-50g of protein into my stomach in under a minute - and the ease of eating it.

You can always use protein shakes + other ingredients as meal replacements, but I think the best time to use them is post-workout. It's just convenient. Or you can chug chocolate milk like Kenny keeps suggesting. If you aren't lactose intolerant, it's cheap and it's apparently very effective.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:42 pm
by ironmaiden708
I believe its around an hour before. As to post workout, I believe the window of best absorbtion is from the finish to about 45 mins out.
For post workout nutrition I believe the most immediate you can get it into your system the better. I think the window is up to 1/2 hour afterwards.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:34 am
by Ironman
You have it before and after. Liquid is what you want for your pre and post workout meals because of the quick absorption.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:12 am
by KPj
Personally, I make a shake (Whey) of around 40-50g. I start to drink it with my coffee before I leave the house to get the gym, which is about 5-10 minutes away. By the time I get to the gym, I've finished it. Post work out, I drink another shake, which is 50/50 protein and carbs. I aim for atleast 50g of each (protein/carbs) in the post work out shake.

I eat an actual meal about an hour and a half before the pre work out shake. Generally I eat another emal between 1 and 2 hours after the PW shake.

A far as i'm aware, it's pretty much 'essential' to have a post workout shake. I've read that it's 'optimal' to have pre workout, even one DURING the workout, AND post work out. What I do falls between what I believe to be optimal, and what's feasable, or do-able.

My training partner has the protein/carb shake before and after, and that's it. We both feel that our own way works better.

I think you'll find that regardless of any differences in opinion, not just here but any (reputable) site, that everyone will agree you need a Post Workout shake. So that's a good place to start.

KPj

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:04 am
by ironmaiden708
That's quite a bit of protein kpj, I don't even believe your body can absorb that much protein at once.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:47 am
by mattk25
Thanks for all the responses guys! I have been drinking Chocolate milk or a Whey Protein Shake after I workout, but I wasn't sure if I was on the right track or not. I also generally eat dinner after a workout about an hour later. I get through my workouts with no problem so I don't think pre-workout will be necessary.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:32 am
by KPj
ironmaiden708 wrote:That's quite a bit of protein kpj, I don't even believe your body can absorb that much protein at once.
Yeah... I'm not going to come out and say that it can. Basically I used to go for 30g. Then I would add a little 'for good measure'. As time went on, I would add a little more for good measure. And so on... Then, after being convinced that it would probably be handy to sip away at a shake DURING a work out, I started mixing up an extra big shake, drinking half before training, and the other half I would sip away at during the session. Then before I know it, i'm drinking the 'big shake' in one go, pre training. And then I decided to just stick with and see how it goes.

Also, some of the Precision nutrition recipes has well over the alleged ~30g. I don't have it to hand, but i'll find some examples later on. But off the top of my head, one omellete has one whole egg, 6 egg whites, couple of slices of cheese, and 4 ounces of turkey ham (there's some veg in there as well, obv, peppers and onions). I really can't remember how much that's supposed to be. But all of the 'anytime' meals have a suprisingly high amount of protein. When I first started eating from PN, I struggled to finish the meals - especially the meat. Now, I can polish them off no problem. it's as if I have just adjusted to eating more protein.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that I don't pay MUCH attention to blanket statements. I think they are more of a guideline, not just with diet, but with anything. For example, how can everyone be different i.e. burn more or less calories than others, have better or worse carb tolerences than others, have different goals, live a different lifestyle, and recover differently. Yet, everyone can only absorb 30g of protein in one sitting? Just seems a little strange to me.

I know that's not a very scientific response, but that's just my reasoning behind it. Also, i made the assumption that your going by the recommended 30-ish grams per sitting.... It just made it easier to explain.


KPj

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:11 pm
by ironmaiden708
I know that's not a very scientific response, but that's just my reasoning behind it. Also, i made the assumption that your going by the recommended 30-ish grams per sitting.... It just made it easier to explain.
Nope no guidelines. Just from what I've learned over the last couple of years. Personally I wouldn't take that much,I want my protein to last a little bit longer. If you got the cash and want to do it I have no problems with that.

You also have to remember that food proteins absorb better than whey protein shakes but not as fast either.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:37 pm
by Jungledoc
KPj wrote:Basically I used to go for 30g. Then I would add a little 'for good measure'. As time went on, I would add a little more for good measure. And so on... Then, after being convinced that it would probably be handy to sip away at a shake DURING a work out, I started mixing up an extra big shake, drinking half before training, and the other half I would sip away at during the session. Then before I know it, i'm drinking the 'big shake' in one go, pre training.
Clearly a case of protein addiction. How long does it take the cravings to set in?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:07 am
by KPj
Jungledoc wrote: Clearly a case of protein addiction. How long does it take the cravings to set in?
:lol:

Um.. A couple of hours normally. After that, i'm a nice guy again.

KPj