Protein consumption: Is there a point where too much proves

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Protein consumption: Is there a point where too much proves

Post by MrWonderful » Tue May 12, 2009 11:52 am

...useless?

My question is, is there a maximum amount of protein that you can consume in a period of time (such as a meal) and anything over this amount is a waste?

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Post by stuward » Tue May 12, 2009 12:26 pm

No, there is no established maximum. There is an old wives tale about 30g at a time but this appears to be nonsense. Many experience benefit of up to 80g at a time. This has been debated for years. A google search will lead to all kinds of people asking the same question without getting a real answer. Paleolithic man often ate one large meat of meat and fat per day and did fine with it. I would expect that such a meal would provide about 200g of protein or more and a similar amount of fat. He probably slept for a long time after but he would have benefitted from the meal. Your body can adapt to a lot.

If you just calculate what you need and spread it out reasonably well across 3 meals and 3 snacks per day you should be OK. Even this isn't a hard and fast rule.

You need to get a reasonable amount of fat with your protein in order for it to be utilized appropriately. I'm not saying don't have a protein shake since that's appropriate at certain times, but over the long term include fat in your diet. Too much protein, in the absence of fat, can lead to rabbit starvation. On the other hand, when there is adequate fat, you can thrive on an all meat diet. You need to determine what's right for you.

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Post by Jebus » Tue May 12, 2009 10:33 pm

don't we excrete in our urine when we get too much?

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Post by MrWonderful » Wed May 13, 2009 12:11 am

Thanks for the thorough response, Stu.

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Post by Rucifer » Sun May 17, 2009 11:35 am

stuward wrote: On the other hand, when there is adequate fat, you can thrive on an all meat diet. You need to determine what's right for you.
I don't know if I would advocate an all meat diet. Even if you are using the argument of a paleolithic man, they still would eat fruit and berries from the trees and bushes. They are some nutrients contained in fruits and vegetables that we should be eating...

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Post by stuward » Sun May 17, 2009 12:23 pm

I'm not recommending it but it can be done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson

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Post by Rucifer » Sun May 17, 2009 4:22 pm

Interesting article. I guess I wasn't thinking about consumption of internal organs and whatnot too. But when you said thrive on an all meat diet, I assumed that meant you were a big supporter of it.

Anyone here a consumer of organ meat? Perhaps its my upbringing but I find the thought of it...revolting.

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Post by stuward » Sun May 17, 2009 4:51 pm

I like liver and chicken giblets.

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Post by Jebus » Mon May 18, 2009 2:54 pm

liver is full of nutrients but i heard it tastes like $h1t.

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Post by stuward » Mon May 18, 2009 2:59 pm

Jebus wrote:liver is full of nutrients but i heard it tastes like $h1t.
It's an acquired taste.

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Post by Ironman » Tue May 19, 2009 4:14 am

I don't like liver, but I do like chicken hearts and gizzards.

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Post by anandsr21 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:10 am

I also like liver. Its best with onions and lots of fat. Be careful while cooking though, it doesn't cook well on high heat.

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