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Post by stuward » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:22 pm

A low carb diet and increased exercise will have that effect. You need a VAP test to tell the types of LDL. That way you can see the size pattern.

http://www.directlabs.com/Resources/Car ... fault.aspx

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Post by Jungledoc » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:39 pm

I may be out of date (we don't do a lot of lipid profiles here in the jungle) but I think most commercial labs use a calculated LDL unles a direct LDL is specified and charged for.

Of course, I remember when the lab would only give you the measured results, and you had to calculate the LDL for yourself. It was a convenience when they started printing the calculated LDL in the report, but then they sort of blurred the fact that it was just calculated.

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Post by Ironman » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:56 pm

Jungledoc wrote:I may be out of date (we don't do a lot of lipid profiles here in the jungle) but I think most commercial labs use a calculated LDL unles a direct LDL is specified and charged for.

Of course, I remember when the lab would only give you the measured results, and you had to calculate the LDL for yourself. It was a convenience when they started printing the calculated LDL in the report, but then they sort of blurred the fact that it was just calculated.
Yea, that's right. That is still the way it's done. That is what makes the accuracy questionable.

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Post by Johnny » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:02 am

Rik-Blades wrote: The main differences between last year and this year has been the following:

Gave up smoking.
Consume lots of Olives and Extra virgin olive oil.
Increased my overall calories from fat from 20% to around 60%, cut Carbs down to around 150g or below a day. I limit my grains to just 2 slices of wholemeal bread a day.
Increased Fish oil consumption (6g O3 oil and I eat tuna every day).
Continued to lift heavy 5-6 times a week (this is my second consecutive year and moving into my 3rd year this month).
That's exactly what I've done for the past 6 months, except for the fishoil that I've just started taking.

My report said the LDL is directly measured so I couldn't argue with the doctor although she looked doubtful when I asked her about this.

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Post by stuward » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:18 am

Johnny, Rick, Have you had any update on your situations? I just read an article that reminded me of you guys.

http://blog.zeroinginonhealth.com/?p=1453

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Post by Johnny » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:14 am

Thanks for your concern, I'm still fighting with my doctor about what should I comsume, she even mention about a few months of vegetarianism!?! because my high BUN, due to eating high protein diet, will kill my kidneys.
I refuse to reduce my protein intake and/or take any medicine. However, now I have decreased my saturated fat intake to no more than 25g a day and eat more nuts and seeds, still have 5 raw eggs every morning though. I should have my blood tested again in April. I aim at about 200mg/dl of LDL or lower if that is possible but the doctor said it won't be lowered that fast or lower at all if I still eat like this.

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Post by stuward » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:47 pm

Are you going to get a VAP test? That article I just posted mentioned a couple of other tests that provide the same info.

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Post by Jungledoc » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:47 pm

A small point, but just to clarify your understanding, a high BUN may be affected by recent protein intake, but BUN will not "kill your kidneys". BUN is only a measurement of kidney function.

If you have some measure of kidney dysfunction, you may need to be careful to avoid protein excess in you diet. The suggestions that are thrown around here about protein intake are for people with normal kidney function, and are intended to guarantee an adequate supply of all amino acids, and for whom some excess would be no big deal.

Do you have protein in your urine? If not, it's probably not a particular significant issue.

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Post by Johnny » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:37 am

Jungledoc wrote:Do you have protein in your urine? If not, it's probably not a particular significant issue.
I've already have my urine tested and it's fine.
stuward wrote:Are you going to get a VAP test? That article I just posted mentioned a couple of other tests that provide the same info.
It'd be just a normal lipid profile test but I'll ask the doctor about other tests as well. I think they have NMR test at the hospital.

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Post by Rik-Blades » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:48 pm

Again. thanks for the concern stu.

I'll give an update in a couple of months when I get myself re-tested. As yet, the Doctors haven't even called me in to discuss the results! I'll book myself in automatically.

I'm not convinced that my LDL is an issue. However, i've swapped my main protein source from eggs to whey and cut back on the cheese. Everything else in my diet will remain the same. See what effect that has.

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Post by pdellorto » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:48 am

This new video just popped up on Precision Nutrition. It's right on topic for you, I think:

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/eggs-good-bad

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Post by stuward » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:52 am

Pete, I can't watch videos at work. Can you provide a short synopsis?

Thanks.

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Post by pdellorto » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:29 am

Nothing you don't already know, Stu - whole eggs are healthy, dietary cholesterol doesn't impact blood cholesterol much if at all, etc.

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Post by stuward » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:06 pm

Thanks, I'll watch it tonight.

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Post by Rik-Blades » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:40 pm

pdellorto wrote:Nothing you don't already know, Stu - whole eggs are healthy, dietary cholesterol doesn't impact blood cholesterol much if at all, etc.
This confuses me. If this is true, why was my LDL much lower before I started eating 60 eggs a week?

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