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Meal freqvency+casein

Post by excore » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:29 am

If I consume large amount of cottage cheese/milk/casein whey before sleep will it effect results optimally?

This is old bodybuilding trick but I think its myth. I think there is no advantage of casein at all.

I think meal freqvency is not that important compared total calories consumed. But how much fasting is too much? Where your body gets energy? Fat? Muscle? Is there still plenty food in stomach ?

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Re: Meal freqvency+casein

Post by stuward » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:23 am

The theory is that casien is slow releasing so that you maintain adequate protein during the night to prevent muscle deterioration overnight. I expect this is most important during cutting phases or for older lifters trying to fight sarcopenia. I wouldn't discount it completely just because it doesn't reconcile with the latest gospel according to IF. Meal frequency and timing may be LESS important than total calories, but that doesn't mean there is no value in all cases.
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Re: Meal freqvency+casein

Post by robertscott » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:29 am

if you are trying to build muscle then you should absolutely eat protein before you go to sleep. Casein is a fine choice, as is any protein from solid food.

You're certainly not going to get bigger and stronger by eating less

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Re: Meal freqvency+casein

Post by Kenny Croxdale » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:52 am

excore wrote:If I consume large amount of cottage cheese/milk/casein whey before sleep will it effect results optimally?

This is old bodybuilding trick but I think its myth. I think there is no advantage of casein at all.
The Caseinate Myth

Great to know.

Exactly, what research data do you have that substantiates that premise?

Research Data

What data do you have to counter the piles of research information like that listed below?

Protein ingestion before sleep improves postexercise overnight recovery.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22330017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the first study to show that protein ingested immediately before sleep is effectively digested and absorbed, thereby stimulating muscle protein synthesis and improving whole-body protein balance during postexercise overnight recovery.

I think meal freqvency is not that important compared total calories consumed. But how much fasting is too much? Where your body gets energy? Fat? Muscle? Is there still plenty food in stomach ?
I Think = Guessing

Anytime anyone start off with I think, it means they are guessing...and guessing is never a good thing.

This takes us back the question, "What data is you guessing based on"?

Frequency

Exactly, what do you mean by meal frequency compared to total calories consumed? Body weight? Muscle mass?

I can guess what you mean but we know that guessing is never a good thing.

Vague Questions

You questions need to be more definitive.

Too Much

You statements remind me of someone I was dealing with telling the product they wanted was too much.

Rather than guess what that meant, I ask: "How much too much is it?"

Then I got a definitive number.

Take Home Message

Be specific with you questions.

Stu & Robert

Both have provide you with some good information.

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