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Dips, handle angle

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:38 pm
by Blue Running Man
My gym has a station for dips and pullups/chins. Which is nice, except the dip handles are not parallel with the ground. They are angled up. So when you are on them, your put into a slight more forward position. I've never seen another tower with angled handles like this, and I do find them to be awkward, and put slightly more stress on my shoulder than parallel handles.

Is there any benefit to handles like this?
Is my concern of increased injury risk valid?

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:56 am
by dale2177
Without seeing the dip station it's hard to say but i have seen ones where the dip handles bolt on to the main structure, is it possible they have been fitted wrong and are supposed to be angled outwards?

I was under the impression that dip bars are always parrallel to the ground and to focus on the inferior pec you create the torso angle yourself and use a diagonal grip, Am sure the guys on here can shed more light but i would be careful with overstrecthing the shoulders on this i suffered a bit of a strain myself after some careless weighted dipping!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:27 am
by Ironman
Yea I think they are on wrong.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:09 pm
by Blue Running Man
The handles are wielded on to the base structure. I don't think it was assembled incorrectly. I'll try and find a picture.

If I had to guess, I'd say the angle is around 10-15 degrees.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:24 am
by Blue Running Man
Hammer Strength Dip/chin tower. Here is a picture of the bar. Let me know what you think.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:12 pm
by Stephen Johnson
Blue Running Man wrote:Hammer Strength Dip/chin tower. Here is a picture of the bar. Let me know what you think.
I'm not all that crazy about the design of the apparatus - the chinning attachment doesn't look that good either. But if that's what's available, you have to make do with it.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:49 pm
by Blue Running Man
yes, I don't like it much either. The worst part is that it's not bolted down, and I've seen it tip on more than one occasion.

If someone is doing chins or dips, and you just push it a tiny bit towards them, it tips over.

There is one other option for dips, the assisted dip/chin station. I can move the knee support and use those handles.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:50 pm
by stuward
Blue Running Man wrote:...

If someone is doing chins or dips, and you just push it a tiny bit towards them, it tips over.

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Get some yellow tape and wrap it up. Post signs to keep away from it.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:03 pm
by Stephen Johnson
stuward wrote:
Blue Running Man wrote:...

If someone is doing chins or dips, and you just push it a tiny bit towards them, it tips over.

....
Get some yellow tape and wrap it up. Post signs to keep away from it.
I agree. I'm surprised that your gym has such a high risk piece of equipment on their floor - it's an invitation for a lawsuit. Are you happy with your gym overrall?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:42 pm
by dale2177
This might be a silly question, but are you facing inwards towards the machine or outwards with your back to it? Either way i agree that it does look a bit dodgy and best avoided!

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:37 pm
by Blue Running Man
The first time I tried to use it, I tried it both ways. I too, wasn't sure if I should be facing in or out. Facing it is definitely the right way.

I've talked with the owner, and expressed my concern that the tower isn't secured to the floor. He seemed concerned, but it hasn't been fixed yet.

The rest of my gym is great, Could use more open floor space, but the other equipment is great. No other complaints.