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shoulder press - seated or standing

Post by robertscott » Sat May 09, 2009 10:44 am

used to always do a seated dumbell shoulder press, thought I'd give it a bash standing up and it's really uncomfortable. Had to drop the weight right down to do it with good posture and stop it hurting my back.

I'm wondering if doing it standing is such a good idea? I understand that it's probably better for your 'core', but i'm shifting less weight doing it so my shoulders ain't gonna get much bigger.

Having said that I've read on a t-nation article i can't find anymore that doing it seated isn't so good for you due to compressive forces on your back. My back is a constant source of gyp so I'd like to avoid that...

Thoughts/opinions appreciated as always
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Post by nygmen » Sat May 09, 2009 10:50 am

Opinion:

I sat down, was able to move more weight, therefore making more progress.

My shoulders grew. (But I'm doing more of a high incline bench, than strict perpendicular press.)

Standing I'm much weaker & have less scapular mobility I guess, because I have a hard time extending overhead without increasing the arch in my back. It isn't as pronounced while seated, but still there.

From what I understand pushups & facepulls fix this. I just have to actually stop being lazy and do them.

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Post by hoosegow » Sat May 09, 2009 12:02 pm

I alternate

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Post by toby123 » Sat May 09, 2009 12:56 pm

I used to struggle with standing shoulder presses, but I now use a 75 degree bench and do seated presses. Since then I have been making good progress.

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Post by xshawnxearthx » Sat May 09, 2009 1:11 pm

i used to do them sitting.

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Post by Ironman » Sat May 09, 2009 7:46 pm

It's good to do both. You can push more weight seated, but it is good for you to lift weight overhead while standing.

I usually would do the dumbbell press seated with a high back bench. That's great to get more front delt work. Then for standing I would usually do the clean and press. You get most of the back and shoulders as well as triceps, forearms and various stabilizers.

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Post by Rucifer » Sat May 09, 2009 9:50 pm

Does anyone do standing dumbell shoulder presses? I do this at the gym and wonder why no one does standing dumbell but standing barbell.

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Post by quad6 » Sun May 10, 2009 3:46 pm

but I now use a 75 degree bench
Me too. I find this safer / more comfortable than a straight 90 degree bench.

Anyone here do the clean and press?

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Post by hari » Sun May 10, 2009 6:42 pm

Stading shoulder press.Which makes me more strength in stabilty and shoulder development.
Anyone here do the clean and press?
Yeah,ive been doing it for mass development.but not full clean and press.
i do half clean and press like this one;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpsZeSq4 ... L&index=25

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Post by Ironman » Sun May 10, 2009 7:41 pm

quad6 wrote:
but I now use a 75 degree bench
Me too. I find this safer / more comfortable than a straight 90 degree bench.

Anyone here do the clean and press?
yea, That's a good one that hits a lot of muscles.

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Post by frogbyte » Mon May 11, 2009 12:04 pm

Is it just me or is seated shoulder press with free weights kind of scary/dangerous. I only did it once and it felt like if the weight were to drift forward or back at all I had no way to stop it. If you're standing you can take a step forward/back to catch your balance.

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Post by markd4863 » Mon May 11, 2009 12:58 pm

For the people promoting a 75 degree shoulder press, can you explain how this form doesnt cause the exercise to cease being a shoulder press, and more resemble an incline bench press? I'd agree, that seems more comfortable, but am wondering if this works the deltoids.

signed - someone who does seated, entirely upright dumbell shoulder presses

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Post by toby123 » Mon May 11, 2009 2:34 pm

markd4863 wrote:For the people promoting a 75 degree shoulder press, can you explain how this form doesnt cause the exercise to cease being a shoulder press, and more resemble an incline bench press? I'd agree, that seems more comfortable, but am wondering if this works the deltoids.

signed - someone who does seated, entirely upright dumbell shoulder presses
I can only speak for myself, but when I did the standing SP, I had a tendency to lean back almost to a 75 degree angle when it got tough. I have also tried doing the exercise with a 90 degree bench set up, but it just felt awkward. I do other shoulder exercise as well anyway (upright row).

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Post by nygmen » Mon May 11, 2009 3:31 pm

markd4863 wrote:Fo
signed - someone who does seated, entirely upright dumbell shoulder presses
LOL

See my above statement about poor scapular moblity.

And yet it makes your shoulders grow

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Post by Matt Z » Mon May 11, 2009 4:38 pm

I think it depends on what you're after. If you're only interested in building big deltoids, then seated overhead presses are probably just as good. However, if you're interested in developing real-world strength standing overhead presses are for superior.

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