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Which exercise recruites the shoulders more...

Post by Silhorn » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:59 am

Hi,
Just out of curiosity.
I hear that the bench press works the shoulders quite a lot.

So which one would recruit the shoulders more, bench press or dips?


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Post by Rucifer » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:01 am

Not sure...probably around the same.

If you are looking to work your shoulders, I would do some sort of overhead press movement and/or a pulling movement like upright rows.

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Post by ironmaiden708 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:07 am

Why not do military or behind the neck press to activate the muscles?

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Post by frogbyte » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:31 am

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Tri ... riDip.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Pec ... Press.html

Compare the lists - bench brings in fewer synergists, so I'd expect more of the effort to come from the shoulder.

I'm kind of surprised lats are only a synergist on dips actually - been a long time since I've done dips, but felt like half the power came from lats.

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Re: Which exercise recruites the shoulders more...

Post by Kenny Croxdale » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:40 pm

Silhorn wrote:Hi,
Just out of curiosity.
I hear that the bench press works the shoulders quite a lot.

So which one would recruit the shoulders more, bench press or dips?
Silhorn,

Why do you want to know?

Rucifer, ironmaiden708 and frogbyte provide you with some good information.

The shoulder is involved quite a few movements. Most individuals get enough anterior deltoid (front shoulder work) and not enough posterior deltoid work.

The problem usually coming from too many pressing exercises (anterior) and not enough (posterior) pulling movements. So, balance a pushing movement with a pulling movement.

In regard to your question, I suspect dips involve the shoulder more than the bench press, was well as your pectorials. That because you get a fuller range of motion.

However, if you perform the dumbell bench press, you will get a much fuller range of motion. Thus, you should will probably get more shoulder involvement, as well as pec.

Kenny Croxdale


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Post by Gantz » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:48 pm

not to go off track, but is range of motion proportional to muscle involvement?

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Post by Stephen Johnson » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:44 pm

Silhorn wrote:Hi,
Just out of curiosity.
I hear that the bench press works the shoulders quite a lot.

So which one would recruit the shoulders more, bench press or dips?
It depends on the width of the grip.

Dips done with the arms close to the torso are more analogous to close grip bench presses than regular grip bench presses. The anterior deltoids and triceps are the prime movers, and the pectorials are the synergists.

Asking which exercise works the shoulders more is sort of like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. They both should have a place in an exercise program. Although I have to admit that I'm partial to dips.

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Post by Silhorn » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:04 am

ok Thanks for your replies.


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