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cables seem cool

Post by ApolytonGP » Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:39 pm

Anyone else like cables?

I just started doing a few cable exercises and they have kind of a cool stabilization effect.

-horizontal rows with the wide bar (makes both shoulders work more than with the machine), even though only one cable.

-bent knee leg flexions. Would think it would all be down the midline, but hits my sides of my core good too. Something about cable.

-Technogym chest press and lateral raises. (i'm too lazy to bother with this at my gym. Just use dumbells instead. But cables feel interesting.


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Post by nygmen » Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:10 pm

Behind the back cable raises are the Bomb.

As long as you don't bring your arms up too far you have like zero trap activation. And keeping the handle behind you helps stop your front delts from taking over.

I like cable flies as a finisher, but nothing special.

Pushdowns are easier on my elbows than skulls or close grip pressing.

Not that CGBP bothers them all that much, but it's hard to work into my program effectively right now.

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Post by Ironman » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:29 pm

Cable has it's uses. It's better to do mostly barbell,dumbbell,weighted but throwing in some cable stuff is ok, especially for bodybuilding. In an advanced overtraining type of routine I always have some cable stuff in there.

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Post by Ricky » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:00 am

I don't like cables.

I'll do the cable pulldowns but they are the most boring part of my workout (IMO).

I really want to do wide grip pull-ups but they are hard. I think I have good upper back strength but my shoulders are lagging.

But yeah... Cables annoy me. It doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is.

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Post by Jungledoc » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:55 am

Palofs. Face pulls.

No free-weight equivolent. I suppose that bands could be similar.

And yeah, seated rows are similar to bent-over bb or db rows, but not quite the same.

They are not at all in the same category as lever-type machine exercises.


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Post by nygmen » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:12 am

Jungledoc wrote:
And yeah, seated rows are similar to bent-over bb or db rows, but not quite the same.
Agreed.

Seated cable rows can be a total black hole of training for the wrong person.

Rowing is one of those situations I would suggest anyone below an advanced (some intermediates) level focus on free weights, unless you have some superior mind muscle connection with your back.

Cable rows will make you think you are progressing. Some plate loaded machines aren't too bad, but free weight rows are vastly superior IMO.

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Post by robertscott » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:44 am

I'm a big fan of cable rowing, good for getting a good controlled depression of the scap

cables are great

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Post by pdellorto » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:38 am

I use cables a lot, and I use them for clients, too.

Especially for:

- pulldowns
- seated rows
- chest press
- standing row
- face fulls
- pull-throughs
- belt squats
- all sorts of hip-hinging exercises (using a belt squat belt)
- curls
- pushdowns
- external and internal rotations
- woodchops

It's a good change of pace from similar dumbbell and barbell exercises, too. Because the ROM isn't restricted at all, you can really get creative with the resistance.

I don't lump them into the category of "machines" any more than I do barbells, dumbbells, bands, and so on. Maybe not a fair or logical breakdown, but it's all about the flexibility and ROM for me, not the dictionary definition of a machine.


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