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Flexing program affecting weight program?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:24 pm
by 24fps
Hi all,

This is most likely a huge misunderstanding on my part and I am expecting to be corrected, so here it goes:

The more I trained the more I see that my flexibility needs to be worked. I am not flexible (legwise) by nature and instinctively I feel that by just doing a small, every morning routine of stretching would do good.

On the other could that be counter productive to my usual training. I've training for almost a year now and I am beginning to see the results but I wouldn't want to jeopardize it in any way.

From what I can gather so far (of all the articles I read online) is that too much stretching will loosened my muscle fibers and thus impair any weight program I am currently on.

Am I completely out of the ballpark here or is there some truth to that?

Thanks,

Phil

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:35 pm
by stuward
Like everything you read on the internet there are 2 extreme views and the truth is somewhere in the middle. However, it's the extreme views that are given the most air play and if one is proven wrong the other view must be right.

Too much of anything can be detrimental. Too much stretching would be a bad thing, just like no stretching might be a bad thing. The trick is to get the right amount of the right kind of stretching at the right time that you need in your present circumstances.

As an example, here's a recent study that suggests that statci stretching may be helpful in middle aged adults.
http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstr ... in.31.aspx

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:16 pm
by 24fps
Hi Stuward,

Thought so too but still I was curious about what folks on this board would have to say.

Once, way back, I hurt myself because I didn't stretch so I learned my lesson and incorporated stretching before each training session ever since I started again last year.

Still, leg and hip wise, it does feel like being more flexible would help. I am not talking about doing the split here but reaching toward a score of 7 on a scale of 0 to 10 (10 being the split and 1 being where I am now) would do me a world of good.

Anybody has a link to a page with pictures of how to perform this or that stretching exercise as well as the A's and B's of stretching....All the info out there is pretty fragmented and it is difficult to see the big picture.

Thanks,

Phil

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:11 pm
by Jebus
Is there a reason why you feel you should be able to do the splits?

Personally the only stretching I do is when I yawn and that get out of bed type stretch in the morning, I just do warm-up sets for exercising.

But if you like stretching and your making strength gains, then like Stu said, just don't go overboard.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:36 pm
by caangelxox
Just stretch what is tight, strengthened what is loose. thats all you got to do. An imbalance will create anterior pelvic tilt, lateral pelvic tilt, or posterior pelvic tilt. Lateral pelvic tilt can happen with either posterior or anterior pelvic tilt. Find out what you are and work on your flexibility on what is tight. Don't forget to use lacrosse balls, golf balls (for little muscles that a lacrosse ball is too big to go through), foam rollers (rumble roller is the best), etc...to get rid of the knotts.

A majority of people think that the hamstrings are tight because they cannot touch their toes, that is really just a myth. It can be do to anterior pelvic tilt (tight hip flexors). When you sit a lot, the hamstrings shorten. Adductors too. You may think you need flexibility there, but it is not going to increase until you get what is tight first. I learned that myself. I used to stretch my adductors and hamstrings..and guess what?...no flexibility improvement at all. now I am stretching my hip flexors like I am supposed to, activating my glutes (getting them to fire and be strong), activating my glute medius (lateral pelvic tilt), fixing my core imbalance with unilateral core exercises, etc.

I have both anterior pelvic tilt and lateral pelvic tilt. Anterior pelvic tilt is going away, I am having trouble with lateral pelvic tilt right now and need to focus on it. TFL is in the way of my glute medius half of the time and I am trying to figure out how to engage my glute medius. How I can tell is when it feels achy and I have to put a lacrosse ball or golf ball over it to get rid of the ache

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:05 pm
by ApolytonGP
Nothing wrong with learning splits.

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:11 am
by Jungledoc
ApolytonGP wrote:Nothing wrong with learning splits.
Except that they are unnecessary for almost everyone, and therefor a waste of time. And potentially injurious.

Otherwise, nothing wrong with it.