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Spot reduction is real!!

Post by Rik-Blades » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:39 pm

A whole new can of worms me thinks....

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Post by stuward » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:40 pm

I can't read the article here at work due to the soft-porn nature of that site, but Charle Polquin says that it's possible through hormone control. He calls it Bio-Signature which smacks of marketing BS, but it's been known for a long time that cortisol encourages fat accumulation around the waist. Control the cortisol and the waist get smaller.

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Post by Velcropop » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:08 pm

How do you control cortisol?

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Post by Bacchus1979 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:55 pm

They lost me at:
Before getting on the treadmill, I put on my weight lifting belt backward so the part that's normally on my lower back is on my belly. This will warm up the area and keep it warm as exercise begins.
Really ?

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Post by NightFaLL » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:42 pm

I'm going to try it, I tried it today.

I figure what's the worst that can happen? I look silly? Who cares.

I did notice my stomach was warmer and is continuing to be warmer right now, whether that actually causes more fat oxidation in that area due to blood flow is still up for debate.


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Post by stuward » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:51 pm

Velcropop wrote:How do you control cortisol?
Manage your stress, get a good night's sleep and keep your workouts short and intense.

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Post by TimD » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:00 pm

I've been a believer that spot reduction COULD be possible, after watching several people do it over the years (myself included, although I had no clue as to why it was working at the time). If you read the article carefully, I think the author makes a key point that timing is critical, and it is best done in a fasted state. The warming thing, I dunno, but it seems to work for him. Also, don't forget, the author is a top bodybuilder, and is probably carrying a small amount of fat around to begin with, so if you 5 FT 5IN, 210 lbs, 20% or more BF, just go with tried and true and try to shed it all over first.
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Post by Stephen Johnson » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:10 pm

If your body fat percentage is in the mid-teens or below – if your fat layer is an inch thick or less – then this method should give you visible results over time.
This article is geared more for competitive bodybuilders looking to get that finished look than a Joe Six Pack who wants to see his six pack.

Increasing warmth and circulation via activity as a means to break down stubborn fat stores in otherwise lean trainers has, like the author notes, lots of anecdotal support from the experiences of pro bodybuilders throughout the ages. It would be interesting if his hypothesis could be tested scientifically.

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Post by stuward » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:29 pm

Jason's discussing this on his Facebook page. Lyle MacDonald just posted:
Apparently Lowery is going down the Poliquin route: he's losing his f***ing mind.

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Post by robertscott » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:34 pm

speaking as a dedicated Joe Six Pack, I have to say I'm less than convinced...

But then if you're doing 1000 crunches a night like Franco was supposedly doing, is that not just cardio anyway which'll make you drop fat?

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Post by hoosegow » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:06 pm

So logically speaking, couldn't I just put a heating pad on my stubborn sites instead of doing all that hard work?

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Post by stuward » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:18 pm

I was thinking of putting on a sweater.

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Post by Jebus » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:26 pm

Just drink boiling hot water while taking a bath.

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Post by Immortal » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:51 am

well technically it "can be real" but lets look at it like this.

If you have a beer belly and start doing hundreds of crunches, planks, and other ab workouts, your belly will indeed get tighter and more firm. BUT this doesnt mean youve lost fat, youve only put on muscle on your belly that can control what ur stomach looks like. Your not going to get a 6 pack duing crunches only but you will harden your stomach to a degree.

Also lets look at people who want to get rid of arm fat. Most people will go right to bicep curls. Does it work? Yes, you will get more muscles in your arms and it will cause you to look more toned BUT this isnt necessarily spot reduction. Its simply the muscles growing underneath the fat that actually fill out and make you look like youve lost a little fat.

Idk but I think spot reduction arent the right words for it, I believe the right words are Spot Muscle increase.

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Post by Rik-Blades » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:12 am

What a reaction :lol:

It is a difficult pill to swallow, but like the article touches on, is some of the great bodybuilders of our time had faith in this. They certainly did get great results to say they were doing everything wrong.

I'm afraid i'm in the 'it's probably the extra cardio' group on this one.


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