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Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:19 am
by Paperclip
Thanks for the info, doc!

BTW my father got a heart attack once.

Edit:
Sorry for asking again, doc, does high blood pressure have any relation to high blood lipid concentration (I don't know if that's the correct term, I'm talking about cholesterol, triglyceride, and the likes).

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:20 am
by GTO
Robert B

Something that helped me was fish oil, It might not work for you but it certainly doesn't hurt to add it to your diet.

Good luck

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:18 am
by Oscar_Actuary
RobertB wrote:You lost me on the troll>alien part Doc
he likes to amuse Dog_Mom

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I was surprised to be 120/90
Having gone 15 yrs between checks.
Reminds me to get out that Life Insurance test and see what is was back then.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:14 pm
by Jungledoc
Paperclip wrote:Thanks for the info, doc!

BTW my father got a heart attack once.

Edit:
Sorry for asking again, doc, does high blood pressure have any relation to high blood lipid concentration (I don't know if that's the correct term, I'm talking about cholesterol, triglyceride, and the likes).
Sorry I forgot to answer that. The relationship is that both are risks for many of the same things, especially heart disease and stroke. There is a familial component to heart attack and stroke risk as well. Tobacco use increases both as well. It all adds up. So if you reduce your high BP a bit, decrease the bad lipids a bit, stop using tobacco and trade in your ancestors for some healthier ones, you can lower your own risk quite a bit.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:56 pm
by Oscar_Actuary
Jungledoc wrote:
Paperclip wrote:Thanks for the info, doc!

BTW my father got a heart attack once.

Edit:
Sorry for asking again, doc, does high blood pressure have any relation to high blood lipid concentration (I don't know if that's the correct term, I'm talking about cholesterol, triglyceride, and the likes).
Sorry I forgot to answer that. The relationship is that both are risks for many of the same things, especially heart disease and stroke. There is a familial component to heart attack and stroke risk as well. Tobacco use increases both as well. It all adds up. So if you reduce your high BP a bit, decrease the bad lipids a bit, stop using tobacco and trade in your ancestors for some healthier ones, you can lower your own risk quite a bit.
Recalling the "You're still going to die thread". As we do our best to lower the risk of dieing from Heart Attack or Stroke, we inevitably our increasing our chances of dieing from something else, and contracting diabilitating conditions. Sometimes is liue of dimentia and cancer, I'm striving for a massive heart attack. Sometimes.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:20 am
by Ironman
Oscar_Actuary wrote:90/45
The more you type the more I think you may not be human
If he is 5'8", 280 lbs, sinks like a stone in the pool, and never used steroids (looking like he's a cutting phase away from competing for Mr. Olympia), then he's not human....well not a homo sapien....he could be another hominid from this planet. Maybe if he is an unusually intelligent neanderthal......

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:28 am
by Oscar_Actuary
oh. :thin:

it's on?

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:19 am
by stuward
Oscar_Actuary wrote:...
Recalling the "You're still going to die thread". As we do our best to lower the risk of dieing from Heart Attack or Stroke, we inevitably our increasing our chances of dieing from something else, and contracting diabilitating conditions. Sometimes is liue of dimentia and cancer, I'm striving for a massive heart attack. Sometimes.
Oscar, it's not inevitable, although with cholesterol, as you TC goes down, you risk of dying from causes other than heart attack go up. The point where all cause mortality is lowest is considered high in some circles. I think what's more important is why you cholesterol is where it is. If you exercise properly and eat properly, your cholesterol will find it's natural balance. If you attempt to bring it down artificially with drugs, it's like taking the battery out of a smoke detector. However, some things, like BP and triglycerides, the risks associated with being too high far outweigh the risk of too low. But for everything there is a balance.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:20 pm
by Khronos8
@Ironman: That's hilarious :lol: ! In addition to my other sobriquets I have also been referred to as "the missing link", or simply "link". As for being a highly intelligent hominid... I hold a Ph.D. in synthetic organic chemistry, which is pretty good even for a homo sapien (though I am most definitely NOT homo habilis, not handy at all... unless you want something heavy moved).

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:24 am
by Ironman
Khronos8 wrote:@Ironman: That's hilarious :lol: ! In addition to my other sobriquets I have also been referred to as "the missing link", or simply "link". As for being a highly intelligent hominid... I hold a Ph.D. in synthetic organic chemistry, which is pretty good even for a homo sapien (though I am most definitely NOT homo habilis, not handy at all... unless you want something heavy moved).
Well they have found evidence of neanderthal genes in human genetics. I think there may have been other evidence of interbreeding as well. So you never know, you may have just ended up with a lot of that in your DNA. I know I ended with the neanderthal brow ridges.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:48 am
by Jungledoc
Khronos8 wrote:@Ironman: That's hilarious :lol: ! In addition to my other sobriquets I have also been referred to as "the missing link", or simply "link". As for being a highly intelligent hominid... I hold a Ph.D. in synthetic organic chemistry, which is pretty good even for a homo sapien (though I am most definitely NOT homo habilis, not handy at all... unless you want something heavy moved).
So, it's "Dr. Link". I'll remember that.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:00 am
by Khronos8
Yeah, just not the kind of Dr. that did anybody any good.

Re: Reducing blood pressure (especially those who have)

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:35 pm
by Jungledoc
Khronos8 wrote:Yeah, just not the kind of Dr. that did anybody any good.
Organic chemists do people good. It's just harder to see the connection between the work and the good.

They have always kept the riff-raff out of medical schools. Anything less than an A in undergrad organic is a death-knell for a person's chances of getting in.