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Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:05 am
How many of you do some kind of regular neck training & if so what type? Should a powerlifter that is not a wrestler or football player need to do neck training as part of a strength program?

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:15 am
by robertscott
I don't do it but I've seen it recommended for people who play contact sports. It'll protect your head from getting bashed about but I don't really see too much value for powerlifting.

Having said that, Jim Wendler's a fan, and he knows a lot more about it than me.

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:28 am
by stuward
I think Wendler likes neck training because a big neck looks impressive. It's not that it helps powerlifting. On the other hand, powerlifting by itself will improve your neck simply because of the tension from doing the lifts, especially deadlifts. ... ticle.html" onclick=";return false;

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:09 pm
by CorlessJohnJ
Can't wait to check that link out when I get home!!! I always wondered about neck training. having a giraffe neck is never fun I'm going to have to look that stuff up!! Work restricts access so definitely going to check it out when I get home :)

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:11 pm
by stuward
Sunday, July 19, 2009
Neck Training Article
The Yoke By Jim Wendler
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The importance of the yoke was brought to my attention when I was a junior at Wheeling High School in Wheeling, Illinois. I was sitting in English class when Alison Kopec, who was sitting directly behind me, grabbed my traps, gave them a thorough rubbing and complimented me on their size. She did so with a certain amount of sexiness and purpose that whispered, “Let’s get it on.” This is when I realized that having a big yoke could potentially lead to some dirty carnality. It never did, but I haven’t won the lottery either, and I’m still playing. From then on, I’ve been a proponent of building a massive yoke. But it wasn’t until later that the term, “yoke” would become part of the EFS vernacular.

Fast forward 14 years. Dave and I are getting measured for dress shirts. I’m about to get married and neither of us have a shirt to wear. Nothing fits off of the shelf so we bring someone to the EFS Compound to measure us. As the guy is measuring us, we notice that one measurement involves going from shoulder to shoulder, with the tape measure being brought over the traps. He mentions that this measurement is the “yoke”. Dave and I compare measurements and I’m happy to say that I came out WAY on top. It was such a crushing defeat that we had to console Dave for a week. It was not an enjoyable week at the Compound, but I was secretly smiling. I was King Yoke @ EFS.

What is the yoke?

The yoke is comprised of several different muscles, none of which I know the technical names of. So to save face and to speak the language of most of my constituents, the yoke is the traps, rear delts and the neck. Of course the traps are the most popular faction of the yoke, but it cannot survive without the neck and the rear delts. They must co-exist.

So why would you want to big a yoke?

Besides the possibility of a large yoke getting you some nighttime nummsies (which should be enough to convince any man), the yoke is the basis on which you will be judged. This may seem like a harsh statement, but let’s face the facts. We live in a society that judges on physical appearance. Having big legs is ok, but no one notices. Big arms make you seem too narcissistic. A big chest makes you look like Captain UpperBody; a superhero no one wants to dress up like during Halloween. So that leaves the yoke as the essential body part to develop.

I have said this a million times before; a big yoke = instant respect. No one wants to screw with a guy that has a big neck and a thick yoke. A massive yoke smells of hard work, strength, fighting and toughness. Every other muscle can be small if a big yoke is present.

So here are my rules to a big yoke. And to the doubters here is a picture of me and my yoke. This was taken right after prom. Aren’t we cute?

Yoke Rule #1 – Train Heavy

The history behind the development of the yoke started in the 8th grade. This is when I started to train. I didn’t know how to train but I did train heavy. This is the key component of being beefy. You cannot big a thick, impressive yoke handling weights that would be called “pink” if they were a color. Your training has to revolve around heavy squats, benches, and deadlifts. This is nothing that hasn’t been said before, but should always be reiterated. This is the most important rule if you want to go to Yoke State University.

Yoke Rule #2 – Deadlift

If you were to put me on a deserted island and allowed me to do one exercise, I would pick the deadlift. Also, since I suck at the deadlift no one would see how bad I was at it. No other lift works more muscles than the deadlift. The irony is that few people do this lift and when they do, it’s “for reps” or for “form work” so they don‘t hurt their back. These terms are code for “pussy”. Yes, I did just say that, but let’s be honest and call a spade a spade. So you must pull and you must pull heavy.

Yoke Rule #3 – Hang Cleans/Snatches

I know some people aren’t keen on the Olympic lifts, but they are gold when developing the yoke. While the Power Clean/Power Snatch are OK, the “hang” versions are much better. This is because most people will use more upper body when doing hang cleans or hang snatches. I recommend doing them one time a week, for 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps. Don’t be afraid to use straps. The Olympic lifts were a big part of my program for a number of years and I credit them for building the foundation of a proper Yoke. Don’t be afraid to try clean grip snatches.

Yoke Rule #4 – Neck work

I’m a card carrying member of the Neckwork Network. I think every man should be doing neck work, regardless of sport. No one wants to have a stack of dimes holding their head in place. It’s embarrassing. As for exercises, I’m not a big fan of neck bridges as they seem unsafe and every time I see someone doing them I have this intense urge to kick their heads out from underneath them. Since I know I’m not the only that thinks like that, I’ll play it safe and stick to the neck harness and the 4 way neck machine. Now let me bestow some wisdom on you; don’t try to max out on these exercises. I tried putting a 100lb dumbbell on the neck harness and after a couple of reps, felt an intense pain in my neck. Not a good thing. When training the neck, either with the neck harness or the 4 way neck machine, stick to higher reps – 10-30 reps. I like to do neck work after each workout. When I was lugging the pigskin for University of Arizona, I would 2 sets of neck work every morning and 2 sets before I went to bed. I put my neck harness beside my bed as a constant reminder. I did sets of 30 reps. Bottom line; do some neck work or be doomed to a life of buying off the shelf.

Yoke Rule #5 – Shrugs

Shrugs are the most common and popular yoke exercise and for good reason. They are easy to do and they work. I have done my fair share of shrug variations and found that each one of them is unique and special. Here are some of my favorites –

* Barbell Shrugs
* DB Shrugs
* Trap Bar Shrugs
* Fat Bar Shrugs
* Power Squat Shrugs
* Safety Squat Bar Shrugs
* Chest Supported Row Shrugs
* Power Shrugs

The key to doing the shrugs (as with all exercises) is to maintain good form. Reps should fall between 6-20. Don’t be afraid to do some high reps with them.

Yoke Rule #6 – Upright Rows

Now I know some people laugh at this one, but they are weak and pathetic, so pay no mind to their chuckles. Up rows were a staple of my training for many years and I recently brought them back. After a recent up row session, my wife commented on the new growth of my traps so I know these work. I don’t like doing these too heavy as they hurt my shoulder sometimes and my form goes in the dumper. These are done for higher reps; 10-15.

Yoke Rule #7 – The Others

There are several other exercises other than the ones listed above that can contribute to a massive yoke. These include; face pulls, rear delt raises, seated dumbbell power cleans, chest supported rows, pull-ups/chin-ups and barbell/db rows. All have a contributing factor to the growth of the yoke, but you can survive without them. Now there are no more excuses for having a small yoke. This is not something that can be developed overnight. The maturation of the yoke takes time. Be patient and the rewards will be great.

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:38 pm
by Halfbreed
Wow, Stu, extremely throrough post, lol. The long and the short of it is, as long as it doesn't impede your flexibility, having balanced strength and finding a reason to strengthen all the parts of your body seem worth while to me. Sometimes it's what makes the difference between being the strongest guy in the room, or just one of the strongest guys. I prefer to be the strongest guy in the room. Just sayin'.

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:57 pm
by nygmen
I have never had to do any direct neck work outside of shrugs, and I need 18 & 1/2 inch neck in my shirts. I also need the "long" ties they give guys 6'6" and/or with a 56 inch gut...

Mine just grows from doing other work, but if yours isn't, you need to do work

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:12 am
It could be just a coincidence, but I remember about 6 or 7 years ago I trained at the Lower Bucks Y which had a 4 way neck unit & I used it often. As I review my old logs, my bench press was doing very well at that time. I did a lot of incline bench work for assistance too, but I have to wonder if that neck work made any contribution.

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:37 pm
by CorlessJohnJ wrote:It could be just a coincidence, but I remember about 6 or 7 years ago I trained at the Lower Bucks Y which had a 4 way neck unit & I used it often. As I review my old logs, my bench press was doing very well at that time. I did a lot of incline bench work for assistance too, but I have to wonder if that neck work made any contribution.

WTH Is a four way neck unit? Man I need to get to a REAL gym. jeesus.

Re: Neck Training

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:50 pm
by TimD
Back in the day, we just used to do wrestlers bridges, and rolled fore, back, right and left with a partner ditting on your chest.