I do not say that you need to build a level of strength before you can train for mass. That's way too simply put. What my main point is, is that a pure beginner might progress more, in means of strength and mass, when concentrating on lower reps and higher intensity on the main lifts. It's not wrong to do bodybuilder split from the start, but I fail to see the main logic behind this.
it was kind of, but not in a "calling you out" kind of way, more of just a "lets discuss this further" sort of way. The whole idea that you should reach a certain level of strength before trying to add mass is a major pet peeve of mine. You didn't actually say that, but if definitely seemed like you were alluding to it. If not, I apologise.
Explain to me why a beginner would progress faster concentrating on lower reps? I hear that all the time but have never had a satisfactory explanation. Also, the OP hasn't mentioned anything about how he trains his other bodyparts, so he could be doing a high rep routine for his back but still doing the 5x5 for squats and deads that everyone seems to think is the only acceptable way to train.
If someone wants to be a bodybuilder (not saying the OP does necessarily, but what if?), why would training for the first 6 months (or whatever) like a powerlifter make any sense?
I have nothing against high-rep ranges. I use them myself also, as accesorial exercises. The example of a powerlifter training does not quite work on my case, because they are more advanced, have the foundation of strength behind them, and usually powerlifters don't do high volume as the main exercise, atleast in weekly basis. They do high volume back work, and high volume shoulder work. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
you assume here that all powerlifters are advanced. Powerlifters can be beginners too.
For where there is more strength, there is more muscle. Training for strength is training for mass. I stress my point that usually beginners gain strength very fast, and it's crucial for their progress to learn to recruit the most of their muscle fibers when going to max effort work.
you can learn to recruit all of your muscle fibres doing sets of ten. As long as you lift explosively, you'll recruit dem dere fast twitchers.
You can't build huge arms around a small and skinny body. High rep isolation is not the point to focus in the beginning, I think compound and several joint/muscle exercises are much more usefull in terms of progress. If I'd be training a beginner, I would first improve strength, then focus on increasing hypertrophy. There is no need for a full bicep/tricep day in a beginner routine. Once again, as an assisting/accesory, some arm work is good and acceptable. Especially stuff like chin-ups.
high reps does not automatically mean isolation. You can focus on strength AND hypertrophy at the same time. I don't understand why people are always trying to make the distinction. And no one would ever prescribe a full day of arm training for a beginner, that's just silly
next time someone comes on here starting a thread about adding mass and someone says to concentrate on low reps, high weight, my brain is actually going to explode out through my ears