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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by Ironman » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:27 pm

My take on peanut butter is to eat the kind without hydrogenated oils and all that sort of thing. Mine has peanuts, palm oil, sugar, and salt.

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by emil3m » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:00 am

Ironman wrote:My take on peanut butter is to eat the kind without hydrogenated oils and all that sort of thing. Mine has peanuts, palm oil, sugar, and salt.
my fav is Smart Balance--highly recommended

http://www.smartbalance.com/products/pe ... ter-creamy
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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by Oscar_Actuary » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:06 am

smuckers natural
Ingredients:
PEANUTS, CONTAINS 1% OR LESS OF SALT


and another plug...

CABOT Greek Yogurt, full fat.
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 Cup (226g)
Servings Per Container 4
Amount Per Serving Calories 290 Calories from Fat 210 % Daily Value Total Fat 23g 36% Saturated Fat 15g 73% Polyunsaturated Fat g Trans Fat 1g Cholesterol 75mg 26% Sodium 105mg 4% Total Carbohydrate 12g 4% Dietary Fiber 0g Sugars 7g Protein 18g Vitamin A 25% Vitamin C 25% Vitamin D 25% Vitamin E 25% Calcium 30% Iron 4%

Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
Ingredients
Pasteurized milk, cream, whey protein concentrate, milk protein concentrate, live active yogurt cultures (L. bulgaricus and S. thermophilus), Vitamins A,C,D,E.


Wait..what? Theres tranfat in this yogurt?

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by stuward » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:31 am

Yogurt contains trans fats. In fact, all dairy and beef naturally contain some trans fats (2-5%). These natural trans fats may actually be healthful but conventional dietary advice treats them all the same.

Conversely, a bottle of Canola Oil may say it's trans fat free but in fact could be up to 5% of the bad kind. It's just that in a tablespoon serving size, it shows up as too small to count. The 1 cup serving size of yogurt is big enough to pass the threshold so it has to be shown.

It just goes to show you that you can't trust labels or nutritionists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by robertscott » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:32 am

I didn't know that about labelling

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Post by stuward » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:36 am

robertscott wrote:I didn't know that about labelling
The threshold is 1/2 g per serving. Less that that can be called zero.
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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by robertscott » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:43 am

that's crazy. I'm going to start selling soft drinks with half a gram of speed in them and call them energy drinks

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by stuward » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:51 am

The big problem with that kind of labeling is that most people don't eat more than 1 serving of yogurt a day, but the canola will show up in almost all processed foods and even stuff they make at home. Heck, they even put it on their salad. A person could easily consume 10 servings a day, not realizing the trans fats involved would be a few grams, not zero like the bottle says. This is why I consider vegetable oil second only to sugar on the evil food scale.
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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by robertscott » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:56 am

I totally agree with you about the vegetable oil thing.

My dad (who's on statins) buys it because it says "no cholesterol" on the side.

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by stuward » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:04 pm

You're just trying to get me going aren't you?
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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by robertscott » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:21 pm

haha, I know better than to bait the grain/vegetable oil nazi!

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by Oscar_Actuary » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:22 pm

thanks Stu!

I like to think of those bad oils as worse than sugar. It helps me enjoy my ice cream more!

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by emil3m » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:33 pm

stuward wrote:Yogurt contains trans fats. In fact, all dairy and beef naturally contain some trans fats (2-5%). These natural trans fats may actually be healthful but conventional dietary advice treats them all the same.

Conversely, a bottle of Canola Oil may say it's trans fat free but in fact could be up to 5% of the bad kind. It's just that in a tablespoon serving size, it shows up as too small to count. The 1 cup serving size of yogurt is big enough to pass the threshold so it has to be shown.

It just goes to show you that you can't trust labels or nutritionists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I heard about the 0.5gr threshold. But what can possibly be better than a cup of greek yogurt?
Kind of a necessary evil, no? Also, I can't imagine consuming 10 portions a day on top of other foods. I take half a serving of fat-free salad dressing once daily and a 1 cup of greek yogurt.

I'm beginning to think that I am much smaller than most of you guys or that I workout much less intensely. The other day, Dub told me that it's ok to eat 280 grams (don't quote me, it was a big number) of carbs after workout--I'd probably go to sleep right away if I did that :)
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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by robertscott » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:32 am

emil3m wrote: Dub told me that it's ok to eat 280 grams (don't quote me, it was a big number) of carbs after workout--I'd probably go to sleep right away if I did that :)
I know you said not to quote, but considering your carb intake for the entire day should be about half that, I find that hard to believe.

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Re: Caloric Intake/Cutting

Post by Dub » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:00 am

robertscott wrote:
emil3m wrote: Dub told me that it's ok to eat 280 grams (don't quote me, it was a big number) of carbs after workout--I'd probably go to sleep right away if I did that :)
I know you said not to quote, but considering your carb intake for the entire day should be about half that, I find that hard to believe.
280g of carbs is a big amount. Maybe not optimal for fat loss, but it's only about 1.5g/lb of BW, which isn't that much considering one is eating all he's carbs post-workout. In fact, I think the post-workout carbs should go near 150-250g range for a man weighing 180lbs. UNLESS his goal is rapid fat loss, when it should stay lower (0.75g-1g of lb BW in workout days). But this is just my view. Many have it differently. I just think high carb amounts have it's place on post workout nutrition, even if trying to lose fat.
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