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Post by Proper Knob » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:43 am

hoosegow wrote:Wait a minute. I thought guns were illegal in England. How can it be that criminals have guns if they are illegal?
Guns aren't illegal. People can have them but you have to pass a strict vetting process.

Most criminals guns are either smuggled in, or are conversions from non-firing replicas to real guns with a bit of 'jiggery-pokery'.


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Post by robertscott » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:44 am

KPj wrote:My guns SHOULD be illegal. They're a danger to the public when I flex.
Smack! That's the sound of me giving you a vitual high five

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Post by KPj » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:56 am

I love articles like this, especially from Dan John http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_art ... p_training

I love how he makes everything seem so simple and straightforward.

Anyway I loved that article because, recently, my whole training group has been screwed up. I train with one experienced lifter and 2 beginners. The experienced one i've trained with for years, but only on a Fri and Sat because he's a night shift worker. So, that makes 3. We now have a 4th, also a beginner. These are all friends of mine. Sometimes, some "gym friends" will jump in, if they happen to be in at the same time and feel up for it.

Anyway, I started working in the gym so, my training schedule is random at best, although it's getting more structured again. One of the beginners started/is working similar hours recently so he's on a similar boat. The beginner that's left won't train himself. The experienced one trains same time, same days, every single week.

So, my little group of lifters hasn't been great recently. Well, on Friday, we had a full house. All 4 of us, for a change. What a difference. We pretty much had the gym to ourselves, too. It's the best workout i've had in months. I've had some great workouts recently but, this one had an edge, and the post workout milk tasted so much better than usual.

Started with speed squats but in two's, as "i go you go". Then worked up to heavy DL's, in the group of 4 taking as much rest as we felt like. Then knocked 20% off for some rep outs which means we can all compete with each other - a 500lbs deadlifter can compete with a 300lbs deadlifter! Good Fun.

Then we followed each other around BB Bulgarians, Rollouts, and DB back extensions, running down the clock. Felt like dying. Was great.

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Post by ellerbus » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:41 pm

Proper Knob wrote:
hoosegow wrote:Wait a minute. I thought guns were illegal in England. How can it be that criminals have guns if they are illegal?
Guns aren't illegal. People can have them but you have to pass a strict vetting process.

Most criminals guns are either smuggled in, or are conversions from non-firing replicas to real guns with a bit of 'jiggery-pokery'.
Do the police in England carry sidearms? I seem to remember when I was a kid they didn't ... only the SWAT style guys did ... is that still true?

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Post by Proper Knob » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:51 pm

[quote="ellerbusDo the police in England carry sidearms? I seem to remember when I was a kid they didn't ... only the SWAT style guys did ... is that still true?[/quote]

That's still true. We have specially trained Authorised Fireams Officers (AFO) who man the Armed Response Vehicles, and above them the Specialist Firearms Officers.

Only the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, Ministry of Defence Police and the Police Service of Northern Ireland carry guns at all times.

I didn't know all this, i had to check.


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Post by hoosegow » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:01 pm

Proper Knob wrote:
Guns aren't illegal. People can have them but you have to pass a strict vetting process.

Most criminals guns are either smuggled in, or are conversions from non-firing replicas to real guns with a bit of 'jiggery-pokery'.
Well then, I blame the government for a poor vetting process. Oh and for not busting smugglers.

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Post by KPj » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:59 am

Had a classic commercial gym moment on Sat which is random enough to share.

Was training someone and this boy came up to me. I recognised from the gym, but noted that he hadn't been in for about 6 months. First off, to sum up the mentality - He had some elbow/forearm pain which wouldn't go away, so it was "best" to take enough time off to allow it to completely heal.... Right... 'Cause he's not got legs, and i'm sure it warranted 5-6 months.... Anyway....

He's about 5'6, about 140lbs.

So, as i'm training someone, he comes right up to me and says, "was wanting to ask you... Do you know anything about this thing called D-Bol"

"What do you mean THING? Do you think DBol is some kind of supplement? Like creatine?".

"I heard it was a steriod. A guy in my work takes it. I was thinking of taking it. Do you have any advice about taking it?"

"umm..... *looks around awkwardly and slightly furiously* My advice would be to get a base of strength and size first before thinking about Dbol, No Xplode, or whatever else you can think of. Just lift and eat, A LOT. I'm also the wrong guy to ask about this stuff, too... I don't know much about steroids and have no experience with them".

I was hoping that would be it. I tried to go back to training the client. However, it's amazing the ignorance of some people in the gym at times...

..."I was just wanting to get my old gains back as quick as possible, and thought Dbol would be a good way to do it".

----First of all i'm noting to myself that he doesn't look any different that he did 6 months ago-----

"you'll get your gains back quickly, just be patient, and eat. It's amazing what hard work and a lot of food can do, especially to a beginner"

"i wouldn't say I was a beginner... I've been training for over a year".

"tell you what, i'll talk to you about it after this session"... I had no intention of speaking to him again about it. I went straight onto other sessions after that so he was away by the time I was free, which was about 4 hours later. Quite amazing. For some people, training advice, nutrition advice, technique or program advice is completely pointless. They may just need a good shake/judo-chop.

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Post by robertscott » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:41 am

just tell him dianabol occurs naturally in milk

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Post by KPj » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:47 am

haha, i might just do that. No doubt he'll ask me again!

I think that's the first time someone has asked me about steriods in the gym. I'm not exactly someone you would look at and think, hmmmm.... bet he's on the gear! I've had it outside of the gym by people who hadn't seen me since I started lifting and are completely clueless but, never in the gym.

I don't know whether it's a flattering thing or not, though. It's possible he took one look at my glutes and thought, "he must juice"......"he's been putting synthol into those bad boys" :lol:

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Post by callipygian50 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:49 am

KPj wrote: ..."I was just wanting to get my old gains back as quick as possible, and thought Dbol would be a good way to do it".

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"tell you what, i'll talk to you about it after this session"...
Good answer.

"I need to get back to my client, why don't you sign up for an evaluation so I can interview you and set up a personal plan?", might be another good answer.

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Post by hoosegow » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:40 pm

We were using the Prowler the other day. We were at a friend's house. As we pulled in there were a couple of guys mowing the neighbors lawn. After changing we were getting the Prowler out of the truck. One of the guys came over to watch and asked what we were doing.

Anyway, to get the the point, he hung around while we warmed up. Up and back empty twice with a high push. Once up and back low. I got done with pushing it low. The guy said, and I quote, "You shouldn't push it that way. You'll hurt your back. I'm a trainer."

It was all I could do not to laugh. He had pencil legs, pencil arms, no chest, and a beer belly.

I said, "Oh, who do you have your certification through?"

He said, "Well, I, I mean I..." Then he shut up.

He then asked if we were coaches. I said, "No this is just for fun."

He left.

I occasionally get asked about things in the gym. I never get told I'm doing something wrong. Here I am, in the middle of a field and some random guy tells me I'm doing something wrong.

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Post by Jebus » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:14 pm

There was an old man at my gym telling me how to do squats...

So after I was done he took the rack and but his belt on and loaded 2 plates on.... no warm up... At first I was like how could he possible lift that, then he did half squats...

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Post by nygmen » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:32 pm

hoosegow wrote:
I occasionally get asked about things in the gym. I never get told I'm doing something wrong. Here I am, in the middle of a field and some random guy tells me I'm doing something wrong.
haha, Jealousy is a bitch I guess.

I've had a dude with a giant beer belly tell me I shouldn't lift so heavy without a belt when I was pulling. Dude was grunting on teh leg press with a 45 per side.

I just had to laugh.

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Post by Nevage » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:51 pm

I'll never forget when I was doing GVT and a guy came over and asked if he could jump in with my leg press. I felt sorry for him as he was actually obese and said sure. 2 sets later he was questioning my training and saying "come on you can lift more than that you wimp!" (bearing in mind I was doing 10x10 and he was lifting some random reps.) There was so many things I wanted to say to him right then, but I then thought that he was probably never gonna get healthy and will most probably die from factors relating to his weight.

Random: 2 people have been shot within 5 mins away from my flat in Nottingham within the last 2 weeks in 2 separate incidents. Luckily both the victims were shot in the leg (both were two different incidents One a robbery, the other an 'isolated' incident.. as in probably gang stuff.) The robbery was in broad daylight and the sort of gang one was at 12.45 on a Saturday night, the time I was getting in and I can see this road from my flat! Literally a minute walk! But since then I've walked up and down that road once a day at least to go shopping and feel absolutely fine! It feels unreal. I don't know how to explain it really, I know the area's quite rough but at the same time I've never had trouble so it seems like it doesn't affect me!

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Post by Jebus » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:46 am

[quote="Nevage"]but I then thought that he was probably never gonna get healthy and will most probably die from factors relating to his weight.
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Ya shoulda told him that.


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