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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:11 am
by frogbyte
You don't need a pre-bagged product though, it's super cheap and it's called beans/rice. If we eliminated the food stamp program and let private charities handle it, things would gravitate more in that direction of efficiency certainly.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:07 pm
by frigginwizard
frogbyte wrote:You don't need a pre-bagged product though, it's super cheap and it's called beans/rice.
Living completely off beans and rice would in no way be the perfect food.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:40 pm
by frogbyte
I agree, but he was complaining originally about cost, and it's healthier than what most people eat. The average church homeless shelter type of food is better than the average American diet as far as I know.

Really top-notch nutritious food is always going to be much more expensive than bare calories to get by food.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:00 pm
by hoosegow
Yes, cost is an issue and part of the arguement. Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

Given:
We currently have the technology and know-how to make a cheap nutritious food.
This food, while maybe not perfect, would be a hell of a lot healthier than what most people are getting.

Is there anything wrong with giving people a strict diet consisting of the same thing for every meal - basically feeding people like most people feed their pets? Consider it manna from the government if you like.

Whether or not you like Purina, trust big companies or the government is not germane to the discussion. Simply put, is feeding people like most people feed their pets wrong? If so, why?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:54 pm
by jml
No, it is not wrong, because people can choose whether or not to accept the food (if it's charity) or buy it.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:52 am
by frogbyte
I eat pretty much the same thing every day anyway. The modern variety of daily food choices certainly did not exist for the majority of mankind's existence.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:14 pm
by Wouter
One thing: if people get the same food day in day out, or worse; every meal, there is chance to develop food allergies or intolerances.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:47 pm
by frogbyte
That's only an issue with the toxins in non-paleo foods though eh? You could probably get by on a massive farming scale with green peas. As far as low-toxin (though not really paleo) foods with broad nutrition go I suspect that'd be the economic winner.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:12 pm
by stuward
If you eat too much of anything you will get an imbalance. You need a variety to balance things out. Of course if you're making a nutrition biscuit, you just take all the different foods that collectively make a balanced diet and put them through a blender, press it into a biscuit and add water.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:23 pm
by hoosegow
Perfect analogy stuward. A nutrition biscuit or Scooby Snack.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:49 am
by frigginwizard
stuward wrote:If you eat too much of anything you will get an imbalance. You need a variety to balance things out. Of course if you're making a nutrition biscuit, you just take all the different foods that collectively make a balanced diet and put them through a blender, press it into a biscuit and add water.
I would eat that.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:01 am
by frogbyte
I'm not sure I buy into the idea that a single food necessarily means an imbalance and sub-par nutrition. There were lots of cultures through history that ate essentially a single thing - usually fish.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:51 am
by stuward
I think it's possible to get by with a predominantly one food diet, and fish or meat probably works best, but most had some other food mixed in, like sea vegetables or berries.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:14 pm
by frogbyte
Hmm I wonder if it'd be economically viable to grow tanks of krill - I don't see nutrition data on krill, but I'll bet it's pretty good. Also fly maggots might be a good deal.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:32 pm
by stuward
frogbyte wrote:Hmm I wonder if it'd be economically viable to grow tanks of krill - I don't see nutrition data on krill, but I'll bet it's pretty good. Also fly maggots might be a good deal.
Insects may be an important source of nutrients some day. You can get by quite nicely on locusts. I saw that in "Hildago" so it must be true.