It's impossible for them to believe the child is LEGALLY a person. It's very possible for them to believe the child is a person. That can be their opinion/point of view. In fact there are libertarians who feel that way.frogbyte wrote:So, analogizing your examples, you think "Given that libertarian X believes a child becomes a legal person is prior to birth" is a logical fallacy? Ie, it's impossible for a libertarian to believe that an unborn child is a legal person?
The logical fallacy involved is called "begging the question". It is circular logic. You are saying it is legally a person in order to make it legally a person. That's why we established it's an opinion earlier.
So if it being an opinion does not matter to you that moves you closer to totalitarian. So if you have some libertarian views mixed with that, it puts you in the middle of the spectrum.
I think it's the same issue, as with socialism.
You have two categories. right wing, and not right wing. Right wing=not socialist, not right wing=socialist. Then you have libertarian and totalitarian. If it is not a dictatorial agenda, you call it libertarian.
My evidence for that are your posts where the slightest deviation from a certain specific political view, is an extreme opposite.
The only problem with that is that doesn't jive with the definition of those words, like socialism and libertarian.
What I think you mean, is "Ron Paul does not lean towards totalitarianism at all". I agree, he is not totalitarian at all.
When you talk about socialist agendas and such, I think you mean something like this. "Obama's policies are not as far to the right as the Republicans, or tea party, or my views". Or "Obama is supporting legislation a little to the left of the politicians I support, or what I think is right." I would agree with that. He is definitely doing exactly that.
That's why I say, the Congressional minority leaders of both houses are a little further to the right than their Democratic counterparts. They are also way further to the authoritarian right than I like, However I do not say they are fascist totalitarian dictators enacting their draconian Nazi-like policies and waging their Holocaust against the poor and middle class.
That is because the first two statements are true, and the last is factually incorrect hyperbolic bull$H17. I don't know if you are going to see that it is analogous to your rhetoric, but I can assure you it is.