Wealth Inequality

Off topic discussions. Feel free to talk about anything here.

Moderators: Ironman, Jungledoc, parth, stuward

Post Reply
Advanced Member
Advanced Member
Posts: 1106
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:04 pm

Wealth Inequality

Post by Jebus » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:50 pm

What does everyone here think of the wealth inequality in the world? Or rather the difference of standard of living between different ideologies, countries?

What do you guys think about taxes, corporate, individual, sales, estate etc?

If this gets into a heated debate, then good lol (I don't mean to troll though).

Associate Member
Associate Member
Posts: 339
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 8:09 am
Location: Buckhannon, WV

Re: Wealth Inequality

Post by jlmoss » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:11 pm

Wealth is in the mind. I consider myself one of the wealthiest guys around.

-I have my own business where I determine my own hours
-The amount of money I make correlates directly to the quality of product I put out
-I have two rockin children and a loving wife... well some times. lol
-I have both my Dad and Mom within 15 minutes driving distance.
-I have my aunt, uncle, two cousins of which I play cards with on a regular basis during the weekends.
-One of my brothers within 15 seconds outside of my business's back door
-Another of my brother is just 30 minutes away
-We are a family with strong, down to the core, family values and we help each other without question when one or the other is down on his/her luck.

That's not to say that I don't have problems or just don't have the money sometimes to pay a bill or two on time every time since our business is relatively new, but...

Yeah, I consider myself a pretty wealthy person and I'd venture to say that I'm wealthier in the mind then many millionaires out there. *shrug*

Veteren Member
Veteren Member
Posts: 2406
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:12 pm

Re: Wealth Inequality

Post by Oscar_Actuary » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:28 pm

what a loaded question

jlmoss of course has the right perspective

For an answer along the lines of what you may be trying to pull.
I believe free enterprise and free markets and less gov't (regulation and taxes) unleashes the resources to do what they do best. Some people are born into better oportunites, of course. However, presumnig the world could be considered a single entity/country, and we were trying to equalize all the wealth, too many of us would let those who work hard do, while others would just suck on the teets. Some regulation some tax some socialization makes sense to me - but not as much as we have here even in America.

Furthermore, I think our time on earth is trivial and each person has burdens to bare

User avatar
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 3991
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:40 am

Re: Wealth Inequality

Post by Ironman » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:36 pm

Well, I don't like the fact that some countries are very poor and tend to be taken advantage of. I don't know much about that, or what should be done about that. Perhaps when the world is more globalized that will improve. That is going to be a slow process though, and it needs to be a slow process. Globalizing too quickly will do nothing but destroy working and middle classes of the wealthier nations, likely destabilizing the entire world economy.

Now if you mean wealth inequality in individual countries, that depends on the country. Some countries do alright with that and some don't. the United States for example is more comparable to a third world country when it comes to wealth inequality.

As for taxes, we need higher estate taxes on larger estates. Capital gains should only be taxed at a lower rate for people who are NOT in the top income bracket. Corporate tax is fine as it is. However we need to close the loopholes so those taxes actually get paid. Sales tax should be eliminated, it is bad for the economy. What it does is artificially raise prices, which hurts demand. Lower demand means decreased sales, profits, jobs, etc. Income tax should be progressive and should gradually go back to the rates we had in the 60's or before. Real estate tax is fine as is, so is personal property. Payroll tax stops at 250K a year. However I think it should kick back in at 500K. That way only the money you make between 250 and 500K is free of payroll tax.

I have gone over my views on this in greater detail in the past. So that should be pretty easy to find. Basically I am a left libertarian. Some people call it Democratic Socialism. It's not really true socialism though. Certain specific things might be socialized, but the majority of the economic system is based on free market capitalism. I sometimes say that I'm not quite and anarchist, and not quite a socialist, but I'm not too far from those things. The way I look at things is based 100% on logical reasoning and empirical evidence.

What we seem to have in the US right now is rampant propaganda being used to circumvent American democracy. We also have a glorification of ignorance and stupidity. The reigns of the country are frequently given to people so feeble-minded, I wouldn't trust them to care for my cats, let alone manage a country.

I'll leave it at that unless you have any specific questions.

Post Reply