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six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:48 am
by josh60
From the New England Journal of Medicine come the news: of more that 400,000 subjects, "there was a significant inverse association between coffee consumption and mortality" and "Inverse associations were observed for deaths due to heart disease, respiratory disease, stroke, injuries and accidents, diabetes, and infections" (the associations are between coffee and mortality, so inverse correlation is good unless you have suicidal tendencies). However, "Whether this was a causal or associational finding cannot be determined from our data."

It turns out previous research that found coffee harmful was flawed by not taking into account that heavy coffee drinkers are more likely to be smokers. Amazing, not normalizing for smoking!

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1112010" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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(*) I don't mean Jungledoc

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:50 am
by stuward
That's cool, now they have to start looking for reasons that association might exist. Antioxidants are an obvious option but I doubt that's the whole picture. It would be interesting to see if sugar and/or cream in the coffee makes a difference.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:00 am
by robertscott
Stephen Johnson's been espousing coffee's benefits for years. He'll be pleased with this.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:11 am
by Dub
But it tastes so terrible. If I have to drink coffee, it's being mixed with so much milk there really is no coffee left.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:52 am
by josh60
stuward wrote:...now they have to start looking for reasons that association might exist
Maybe coffee drinkers are generally more active?

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:03 am
by Jungledoc
Dub wrote:But it tastes so terrible. If I have to drink coffee, it's being mixed with so much milk there really is no coffee left.
You're obviously confused. Coffee is delicious. It is better without mild or sugar, so that is probably what is causing your confusion, you've only tried it with milk. Stop over sometime, and I'll brew you a cup of the good stuff!

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 5:19 am
by robertscott
Jungledoc wrote:
Dub wrote:But it tastes so terrible. If I have to drink coffee, it's being mixed with so much milk there really is no coffee left.
You're obviously confused. Coffee is delicious. It is better without mild or sugar, so that is probably what is causing your confusion, you've only tried it with milk. Stop over sometime, and I'll brew you a cup of the good stuff!
I have to disagree with you there Doc, coffee is best with loads of cream and 2 heaped teaspoons of sugar. Mmmm

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:44 am
by Oscar_Actuary
coffee black.

some of you probably add fruit juice and soda pop to your adult beverages

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:33 am
by robertscott
Oscar_Actuary wrote:coffee black.

some of you probably add fruit juice and soda pop to your adult beverages
we can't all be as mature and ascetic as you Oscar.

Cream in coffee, coke in rum, diluting juice in water.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:07 am
by Ironman
I'm kind of like Oscar in that regard, black coffee, and no mixers for the adult beverages. Nothing like a quality single malt scotch on the rocks. Or you can mix the two by making an Irish coffee. I like to make the coffee strong, so you don't water it down when you add the Irish whiskey. Then some Irish cream, and a little whip cream. Usually Jamison and Bailey's. Tasty for sure, but it'll put some hair on your chest.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:23 pm
by robertscott
whiskey'd be the only spirit I wouldn't mix. I drink it half and half with water

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:59 am
by Jungledoc
Little old ladies drink tea with cream and sugar. Men and the strongest women drink coffee. Not coffee with something. Coffee.

There. I said it. All of you who can't handle coffee without dairy products and sweetener can go ahead and hate me now.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:56 am
by robertscott
Why deny yourself the pleasure of a little sugar? You've been negatively influenced by Stu

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:31 pm
by Jungledoc
I love sugar. It just doesn't belong in coffee.

Re: six cups of coffee a day keep the doctor away(*)

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:20 pm
by stuward
robertscott wrote:Why deny yourself the pleasure of a little sugar? You've been negatively influenced by Stu
pffft :)~