Hi guys,
I'm new here. I have scrambled a new routine together. It goes like this:
All exercises are completed with 5x5
Day 1:
Barbell Squat
Barbell Military Press
Weighted Triceps/Chest Dip
Day 2:
Barbell Deadlift
Barbell Benchpress
Weighted Close Grip chin-up
I don't want any isolation exercises. I focus on big compound movements. Any input?
Input on new routine
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Matt Z
Well, I'm not Matt, but I'm sure he's referring to getting something in for the back, and I agree. I like your setup, but here's how I have and would do it. Squats, BP, Row Day 1
A few days later, come back with DL, Overhead press, Chest dips and Curl grip chins.
tim You've got everything covered that way.
Tim
A few days later, come back with DL, Overhead press, Chest dips and Curl grip chins.
tim You've got everything covered that way.
Tim
Alright. Is rows equal to cable seated row or what are your suggestions? BOR?TimD wrote:Well, I'm not Matt, but I'm sure he's referring to getting something in for the back, and I agree. I like your setup, but here's how I have and would do it. Squats, BP, Row Day 1
A few days later, come back with DL, Overhead press, Chest dips and Curl grip chins.
tim You've got everything covered that way.
Tim
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GoLdeN M 07
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Hi. Yes, they are supplementive , but let's look a rows (thinkd seated cable rows, or bent over barbell rows, I prefer the bent over barbell row, but use what you have, it's the same motion). The DL does in fact get your mid back, but it's primarily a lower body hip/ham movement. The rows are primarily upper body pull, but in a different plane of movement from chins/pullups. Having them in is a good thing. As to the chest dips/tricep dips, well, it's on the same day as overhead press, so the shoulder girdle is getting priority on this day. The dips just reinforc e your tricep strength and effect the chest in a lighter day. I'd keep them all in, keeps everything all well balanced out.WTSGD wrote:I was just wondering. Aren't dips and bent-over-rows supplementative to benchpress, military press and deadlift? I mean are they necessary?
Tim
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Matt Z
No it isn't too much. 5x5 is great because it gives you a greater workload and it increses the strain on the muscle.DubDub wrote:I am no expert at deadlifting, but isn't 5x5 a bit much for that? I think it's standard to do something more like 4x3... with more weight than you would use for 5x5. Just something to consider.
Well, the 5X5 can be interpreted in many ways, The way Starr described it in "The Strongest Shall Survive - Strength Training for Football", he had you using progressively heavier weights each set up to the last one or two work sets. Another method is to take 2-3 warm up sets, progressively heavier , and use 3 top work sets. Go with what works for you. Also, as to the 3's, well Starr even recommends this when getting up into heavy stuff, especially on cleans and DL's. A progression may look like this; 5,5,5,3,3,1-3. Again, the original poster's basic idea is solid, just nterpret it as needed once you get to the point that it might be necessary to get down to 3's.
Tim
Tim
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JeffD
Nah...I go as high as 7x5, but thats the only exercise ill do the whole workout so thats probably why i can get away with it.DubDub wrote:I am no expert at deadlifting, but isn't 5x5 a bit much for that? I think it's standard to do something more like 4x3... with more weight than you would use for 5x5. Just something to consider.
