Which shoulder press?
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Which shoulder press?
Which shoulder exercise is better for overall shoulder development (anterior and lateral)?
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Freeweight exercises generally give better results that machines, so I'll go with the Arnold Presses. But upright rows and lateral raises will still produce better results for the lateral deltoid, and the poor posterior deltoid, as usual, is left out of the loop here.
Getting all-around shoulder development is a challenge, even for pro bodybuilders
Getting all-around shoulder development is a challenge, even for pro bodybuilders
I think you got it all wrong Golden. First, forget machines. Next, the arnold press just seems like a shoulder press with a lot of pointless twisty crap. You work the anterior good with shoulder press and lateral a bit too. You really need laterals or upright rows though.
As for posterior, I find they get worked enough with the back and don't need isolation. A set of rear delt rows can be added to your back routine if they need help though.
Upper fiber traps are in the shoulder area. They get some work with laterals, but shrugs are the best way to develop them.
The reason you can't get the entire shoulder area in 1 motion is because they are complex and involved in many different motions.
As for posterior, I find they get worked enough with the back and don't need isolation. A set of rear delt rows can be added to your back routine if they need help though.
Upper fiber traps are in the shoulder area. They get some work with laterals, but shrugs are the best way to develop them.
The reason you can't get the entire shoulder area in 1 motion is because they are complex and involved in many different motions.
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Ironman wrote:I think you got it all wrong Golden. First, forget machines. Next, the arnold press just seems like a shoulder press with a lot of pointless twisty crap. You work the anterior good with shoulder press and lateral a bit too. You really need laterals or upright rows though.
As for posterior, I find they get worked enough with the back and don't need isolation. A set of rear delt rows can be added to your back routine if they need help though.
Upper fiber traps are in the shoulder area. They get some work with laterals, but shrugs are the best way to develop them.
The reason you can't get the entire shoulder area in 1 motion is because they are complex and involved in many different motions.
Arent upright rows bad for the shoulder joints? I was thinking aout starting doing them 2 weeks ago but i saw too many bad comments on it.
Many people have been saying military presses and shoulder presses work the lateral delts and make u wide so im starting to do them.
take a gander at this thread, most of the questions associated with upright rows are addressed within (I believe) http://exrx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358
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o ok thanks for the info, ive seen this post before. So it might be ok for me to do upright rows. I used to do them with cables for my shoulders around 2 years ago and they didnt do me any harm at all so its probably ok for me.Mog16 wrote:take a gander at this thread, most of the questions associated with upright rows are addressed within (I believe) http://exrx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358
But aside form that, ive seen a few internet sites saying that upright rows work the anterior delts and dont give u much of a median delt workout.
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Whichever site said that is full of it. The lateral deltoid is the target of the upright row, while the anterior head is a synergist.GoLdeN M 07 wrote:But aside form that, ive seen a few internet sites saying that upright rows work the anterior delts and dont give u much of a median delt workout.
I suggest that you start using various exercises in your workouts and keep a record of the results in a training diary. You'll have something real to look at, rather than waste time trying to validate each and every claim made on different web sites. Experience is the best teacher.
Try upright rows with a barbell. If that hurts your wrists, you might just do dumbell. If they both hurt your shoulders then you can't do them. Some people ( me for example) can't do them at all as they are painful which is a sign of injury. Other people don't have a problem with them. If nothing else laterals work for everyone, there are variations on them too.
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