Cannot do squats
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Cannot do squats
Hi,
I am following Starting Strength as advised by this forum and already can feel an increase in strength. But of late, squatting has become a problem. After every session of squat, I get a bad pain in my knees which last for 2 days and by that time my next workout day arrives( I train 3 days a week). Wearing knee caps didnt help either. So I tried to replace squatting with one legged leg press, but that didnt help either. In fact leg preess seemed to put more preassure on knees and the pain was more. Now I am doing double legged presses with much less weight but I am sure that is not getting me anywhere. What do I do? Do I need to see a doctor to evaluate my knee situation? I am terribly dissapointed for missing the squats which I loved doing.
Btw, the routine I follow is this:
Monday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench press / Press (Alternating)
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure
Wednesday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press / Bench Press (Alternating)
1x5 Deadlift
Friday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press / Press (Alternating)
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure
Any suggestion would be much appreciated.
I am following Starting Strength as advised by this forum and already can feel an increase in strength. But of late, squatting has become a problem. After every session of squat, I get a bad pain in my knees which last for 2 days and by that time my next workout day arrives( I train 3 days a week). Wearing knee caps didnt help either. So I tried to replace squatting with one legged leg press, but that didnt help either. In fact leg preess seemed to put more preassure on knees and the pain was more. Now I am doing double legged presses with much less weight but I am sure that is not getting me anywhere. What do I do? Do I need to see a doctor to evaluate my knee situation? I am terribly dissapointed for missing the squats which I loved doing.
Btw, the routine I follow is this:
Monday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench press / Press (Alternating)
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure
Wednesday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press / Bench Press (Alternating)
1x5 Deadlift
Friday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press / Press (Alternating)
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure
Any suggestion would be much appreciated.
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thisJungledoc wrote:How deep are you squatting?
Where and how did you learn to squat?
and if your knees go over your toes odds are you're going to have issues with your knees.
also, some people just can't squat 3 times a week. i tried it, i was devastated by it. if i squat once a week, my knees are great.
About that knees over toes thing - how is that even possible without going up on your toes when squatting? As far as my squatting experience goes, if my knees go further than my toes without me going up on my toes in the hole, I'd fall over.xshawnxearthx wrote:thisJungledoc wrote:How deep are you squatting?
Where and how did you learn to squat?
and if your knees go over your toes odds are you're going to have issues with your knees.
also, some people just can't squat 3 times a week. i tried it, i was devastated by it. if i squat once a week, my knees are great.
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You are supposed to push your butt back like you are going to push someone out of the way using your butt. Do glute bridges, clams, glute activation work before you squat. and if your knees are bothering you, massage your TFL because that may be overactive and may be a trigger point or it could be somewhere in the hip flexors. massage both with a little ball
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Try changing your stance and/or bar placement. Don't let your knees come together when you squat, and don't bounce at the bottom.
"As far as my squatting experience goes, if my knees go further than my toes without me going up on my toes in the hole, I'd fall over." - IceDane
You should be driving through your heels, not coming up on the ball of your foot.
"As far as my squatting experience goes, if my knees go further than my toes without me going up on my toes in the hole, I'd fall over." - IceDane
You should be driving through your heels, not coming up on the ball of your foot.
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Try squatting ass to the floor without the knees going over the toes - this is not the problem.xshawnxearthx wrote:thisJungledoc wrote:How deep are you squatting?
Where and how did you learn to squat?
and if your knees go over your toes odds are you're going to have issues with your knees.
also, some people just can't squat 3 times a week. i tried it, i was devastated by it. if i squat once a week, my knees are great.
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I think front squats is harder and more challanging than back squats. if this person cannot do a back squat correctly, he/she has a good chance of getting hurt with a front squat. also I cant do a front squat myself without the bar going up and down instead of steady like a table on my shoulders using a cross grip because my hips don't want to squat down evenly. and it feels like the bar is going to come off my shoulders and it feels like I have to shrug them to keep the bar on my shoulders. I want to do the wrist grip instead, but my wrist flexibility sucks and the wrist strength isnt there to hold a 45 lb bar like the cross grip canPeter Rouse wrote:A few solutions
Learn to squat from someone who knows what they are doing
Change to front squats
Change to Bulgarian Squats
I had a feeling that would be misinterpreted. What I'm saying is that I find it impossible at all to make my knees go further out than my toes, without going up on the balls of my feet. I don't see how it is possible to do with your heels firmly on the ground, without losing the balance.Matt Z wrote:Try changing your stance and/or bar placement. Don't let your knees come together when you squat, and don't bounce at the bottom.
"As far as my squatting experience goes, if my knees go further than my toes without me going up on my toes in the hole, I'd fall over." - IceDane
You should be driving through your heels, not coming up on the ball of your foot.
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This is usually due to limited thoracic mobility.caangelxox wrote:I think front squats is harder and more challanging than back squats. if this person cannot do a back squat correctly, he/she has a good chance of getting hurt with a front squat. also I cant do a front squat myself without the bar going up and down instead of steady like a table on my shoulders using a cross grip because my hips don't want to squat down evenly. and it feels like the bar is going to come off my shoulders and it feels like I have to shrug them to keep the bar on my shoulders. I want to do the wrist grip instead, but my wrist flexibility sucks and the wrist strength isnt there to hold a 45 lb bar like the cross grip canPeter Rouse wrote:A few solutions
Learn to squat from someone who knows what they are doing
Change to front squats
Change to Bulgarian Squats
People are far less likely to hurt themselves on the front squat for so many reasons.