Yes, basically, there's a difference between squat the movement and squat the exercise. The exercise should suit whatever your goals are and the movement should be maintained (assuming you have it... Improved if you don't or it could be better).ephs wrote:oh, then i misunderstood you, maybe cause of the language barrier. i thought you aim to train deeper squats, sorry.
In what way is it taken too far?Oscar_Actuary wrote:sometimes this movemet stuff is taken to far
Like, it'd be cool to have that flexibility to be able ot do an overhead squat. I dont
So what?
I mean really. Does that indicate I have some condition to be concerned ?
I get that one should not load up their {vulnerable body part here} but that aside, all this testing to see what we can do.. blah.
"All" that testing in my case takes about 10 minutes during an initial consultation with a new client who, before hand, I know nothing about but I'm expected to get them fitter, stronger, help them get pain free or lose fat, or a combination of all. They don't get hooked up to machines and poked and prodded like lab rats.
Also, in this case Ken is doing a self movement screen. This is a little more involved. A new member in my gym will get screened and I tell them it's just to make sure I don't hurt them and can tailor their program specifically too them. I don't follow up with a whole list of problems they have. So I agree you shouldn't have the mindset of "i have this or that condition". You should just focus on what you can do and getting better.
If I gave you a car and told you to go out on the race track with it, would you feel more comfortable having someone that knows what they're doing check it over first? Or just as comfortable diving straight in and going for it. Sure, a car can have some little imperfections and still make it round and put on a good show but, you don't want any major issues. What if the tyres on one side are really bald, tracking is out, you're not firing on all cylinders, but you just go out and race anyway? Either something will blow or you'll have a less than stellar time on the track.
How do we do the same with ourselves?
I didn't buy into this as much until I started training people. However, when someone is paying for your time and that time is going to involve making them fitter or stronger, which is by effect placing more demand on the system, then I want some way of measuring and controlling risk. That's all movement screening is. Movement is the system that we build performance on. I want to know if Joe Blogs will get hurt if I make him do heavy deadlifts or not before i've even written his program.
There's loads of ways to measure risk and whatever way you choose to do so is down to you. The key is to measure it. Or not...
KPj