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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by Dub » Fri May 09, 2014 3:09 am

KittenJ wrote:mmmmm cadbury cream eggs *drools* lol

Alright.

So Stu, I'm doing protein shakes in the AM right now because my protein intake for the day is, food wise, 2 hardboiled eggs and maybe half a serving of protein scattered in my dinner somewhere. I'm focusing on my diet, trying to keep candy, chocolate, general junk food to a minimum and up my vegetable, protein, fruit intake.

I'll look into those glucosamine/chondroitin-based joint formulas that you mentioned Stephen.

I'm still considering adding casein in the evenings after my workout as needed.
Most likely you don't need supplements. Just get your protein from whole foods and you'll be good. Around 1.5-2g per kg of bodyweight is well enough. (Or around 0.75-1g per lb of bodyweight.) If you hit that ratio, you'll be fine and moving well towards your goal.

Of course if you still like protein shakes and stuff, be my quest. But usually those things aren't as satiating or nutritious as normal food sources
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by KittenJ » Fri May 09, 2014 8:10 am

Right now i'm 203lbs... 203g of protein seems like a -lot-... or am i calculating that wrong?

my problem is I snack all day.. I eat on the run a LOT.. so all my food for the day is in sandwich bags in my lunchbox.
Strawberries
carrots/celery
a little peanut butter
a bowl of brown rice
1 sliced apple

in the mornings I have
ham (if no ham i have a protein shake)
banana
OJ

then at school I have:
a protein shake

then i go to the gym and home
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by Dub » Fri May 09, 2014 8:43 am

In your case I would go with the desired body weight or consume only around 1.5g per kg / 0.75g per lb. That would be around 140-150g daily.
Try to get some protein snack with your meals:
Dairy products and eggs are great, so is meat. Nuts have some protein as well. For the sake of convenience you might benefit from your shake if you can't carry around some proper protein sources.
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by KittenJ » Fri May 09, 2014 8:58 am

I forgot to add I do have 2 hb eggs at lunch..

So what i'm doing isn't too bad.. good to know :)

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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by robertscott » Fri May 09, 2014 9:55 am

drop that juice girl! It's just adding extra calories

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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by KittenJ » Fri May 09, 2014 2:43 pm

My orange juice? What?
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by robertscott » Fri May 09, 2014 3:02 pm

KittenJ wrote:My orange juice? What?
sugary as hell Kitty, not what you want.

If you're trying to lose weight I'd actually recommend keeping your breakfast carbless

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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by stuward » Fri May 09, 2014 4:05 pm

Friut juice is one of those things, like low fat dairy, that everyone thinks is healthy but is not. Have real fruit instead.

Let your carbs match your activity. People doing less than an hour of real exercise per day (most non-athletes) only need minimal carbs, the amount you get from fruits and vegetables.
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by KittenJ » Mon May 12, 2014 9:28 am

Aww *pouts and kicks at the floor*

So just a banana and my protein drink? Thats what I go for most of the time, i only add in OJ if I'm craving something sweet o.o
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by Dub » Mon May 12, 2014 10:16 am

Make your own juice, buy a juicer or something. No added sugar or any garbage whatsoever
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by Stephen Johnson » Mon May 12, 2014 11:04 am

KittenJ wrote:Aww *pouts and kicks at the floor*

So just a banana and my protein drink? Thats what I go for most of the time, i only add in OJ if I'm craving something sweet o.o

Somehow, I get the feeling that you're going to have your morning cup of OJ regardless. No big deal, as long as it's one cup a day.

Orange juice isn't as sweet as most soft drinks,and it's a lot more expensive. Sugar fiends don't gulp orange juice like they gulp sodas.
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by KittenJ » Tue May 13, 2014 8:31 am

I'm good about listening to sound advice and you guys seem like you aren't the type to blow smoke :)

I'll pass on my OJs.. If I'm to keep my breakfasts carbless what should I be going for then?

And a juicer doesn't sound like a bad idea.. kinda fun one actually.
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by stuward » Tue May 13, 2014 1:27 pm

It doesn't have to be completely carbless. A piece of fruit is OK. Eggs, meat, fish and veg should be the base of your eating for all meals with fruit and nuts as options. There is nothing special about breakfast that makes it different. If you have no issues with dairy, cheese and greek yogurt are good low carb choices. High fat is easy to overeat for some people, high carb is problematic for others. The important thing is to know yourself and eat the way that is enjoyable for you but is low in calories.
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Re: best non creatine pre work out supps

Post by KittenJ » Tue May 13, 2014 4:13 pm

Awesome.
Thanks Stu :)
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